Science of Conspiracy Theories.

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
You need to get it through your increasingly thick skull RUSSIA ALREADY HACKED our election. They did it because Putin has a BIG hard on against Hillary. He HATES her. That and the fact they have been working Trump for DECADES.
Among other things, I think that is the number one reason Trump does not want to allow ANYONE to see his taxes because that will show ...[text shortened]... ople has said Russia did it and if you can't believe that YOU ARE NOT ON THE SIDE OF THE US COMRADE.

Do you deny the CIA helped Yeltsin get elected? People in glass houses should not throw stones.

@Metal-Brain
I don't give a SHYTE about CIA. STOP WITH THE WHAT ABOUT HIM ISMS.
I am talking about RUSSIAN HACKING OF DNC. THAT IS A FACT JACK and the more you deny that the more it looks like we should call you COMRADE because you seem not to have any interest in actually stopping foreign interference. I know, now you will say THERE IS FOREIGN interference, it is UKRAINE.
BUT THAT IS BULLSHYTE. WHY WOULD THE UKRAINE WANT TO ATTACK US WHEN WE ARE HELPING THEM IN A SHOOTING WAR AS WE SPEAK WITH RUSSIA?
Also, you REFUSE to discuss the obvious lack of security with your god Trump using unsecured cell phones. THAT IS A BIG DEAL for national security because it is well known top officials have their cell phones regularly tapped, UNSECURED phones and a top target, target #1 is Trump.
So ANSWER THAT INSTEAD OF GOING WHAT ABOUT HIS ISMS.

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
I don't give a SHYTE about CIA. STOP WITH THE WHAT ABOUT HIM ISMS.
I am talking about RUSSIAN HACKING OF DNC. THAT IS A FACT JACK and the more you deny that the more it looks like we should call you COMRADE because you seem not to have any interest in actually stopping foreign interference. I know, now you will say THERE IS FOREIGN interference, it is UKRAINE. ...[text shortened]... D phones and a top target, target #1 is Trump.
So ANSWER THAT INSTEAD OF GOING WHAT ABOUT HIS ISMS.

COULD YOU JUST STOP SHOUTING like you ARE NEARLY AS SANE as METAL BRAIN just a bit LOUDER!?

ffs...

@Shallow-Blue
When he keeps repeating the same BS line, how am I supposed to reach him? All lowercase? It doesn't matter how I say it he just does the move goalpost or does What about him ism. It is like talking to a brick wall. Very frustrating. He has a mind set that will not allow anything but the BS sites he thinks proves his points which all they do is spot some kind of anti US propaganda.

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
I don't give a SHYTE about CIA. STOP WITH THE WHAT ABOUT HIM ISMS.
I am talking about RUSSIAN HACKING OF DNC. THAT IS A FACT JACK and the more you deny that the more it looks like we should call you COMRADE because you seem not to have any interest in actually stopping foreign interference. I know, now you will say THERE IS FOREIGN interference, it is UKRAINE. ...[text shortened]... D phones and a top target, target #1 is Trump.
So ANSWER THAT INSTEAD OF GOING WHAT ABOUT HIS ISMS.

So you want some people to be held unaccountable for their crimes because you hate Trump so much. Got it. Justice doesn't matter.

@shallow-blue said
COULD YOU JUST STOP SHOUTING like you ARE NEARLY AS SANE as METAL BRAIN just a bit LOUDER!?

ffs...

He wants to apply a double standard and let Bush get away with his crimes. It isn't about justice, it is about hate for Trump. He wants to pretend precedent doesn't exist.

https://ips-dc.org/wp-content/uploads/2003/02/COERCED.pdf

@Metal-Brain
The real deal is what TRUMP is doing right now. Of course you want to deflect that any way you can, eh comrade.
You can't even bring yourself to discuss the issue of talking on unsecured cell phones for government business. This goes WAY beyond ANYTHING Bush or Bush Jr did.
I hate Trump based on his behavior which is reprehensible.

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
The real deal is what TRUMP is doing right now. Of course you want to deflect that any way you can, eh comrade.
You can't even bring yourself to discuss the issue of talking on unsecured cell phones for government business. This goes WAY beyond ANYTHING Bush or Bush Jr did.
I hate Trump based on his behavior which is reprehensible.

I have never even heard of the unsecured cell phone issue you keep bringing up. If it is so bad why have I never heard of it before you brought it up?

Precedent means something. You can ignore it, but the law can't. You want to selectively enforce the law and let Bush off the hook. Where was Pelosi when Bush was using bribery and extortion to rig votes in the United Nations? Bush tried to rig the votes of the whole world to get a war. Bribery and extortion is a crime. Do you support charging him with a crime?

@Metal-Brain
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/22/the-very-real-risks-posed-by-trumps-use-of-a-cellphone/

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Trump+using+unsecured+cell+phone%5d&&view=detail&mid=6029095521BA992495096029095521BA99249509&&FORM=VRDGAR

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/us/politics/trump-phone-security.html

Of COURSE you don't know about this when all you watch is Faux News.

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/22/the-very-real-risks-posed-by-trumps-use-of-a-cellphone/

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Trump+using+unsecured+cell+phone%5d&&view=detail&mid=6029095521BA992495096029095521BA99249509&&FORM=VRDGAR

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/us/politics/trump-phone-security.html

Of COURSE you don't know about this when all you watch is Faux News.

Hypocrisy isn't new in the white house. Did you miss the email hypocrisy years ago?

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/417597-dershowitz-ivanka-trump-personal-email-use-is-hypocrisy-on-parade-but

It is only a big deal if he revealed classified information. Can you prove he did that? You should remind yourself that the news media controls what becomes a scandal and what doesn't. You never heard about Reagan helping Saddam use chemical weapons against Iran. How can you know a scandal just happened if you never hear it happened at all? If it doesn't get any media attention it doesn't become a scandal, but does that mean it is not scandalous?

1.8 billion dollars was embezzled in the Ukraine. Not newsworthy?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz was conspiring to rig the US elections and after she was forced to resign in disgrace HRC gave her a job working for her campaign. HRC controlled the DNC at the time because she hijacked the DNC before the nomination was won. That makes it look like HRC herself was behind the election meddling. Not newsworthy?

https://www.livescience.com/1956-study-gossip-trumps-truth.html

Gossip controls what becomes a scandal and the corporate news media controls gossip to a large extent. You thought GPS was dependent on relativity for accuracy. You refused to let go of that myth for a long time. The gossip overcame the truth. I had to deprogram you from the false narrative and it was not easy. You were dogmatic and did not want to accept it was a myth.

Propaganda is a science. It enables people to manipulate people the same way gossip does. Perception is a powerful thing and people are reluctant to believe what they think they know is wrong. I once had a friend tell me the article from the link below was fake news.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/

Now you are bent on believing Fiona Hill's lies. I have proven the Ukraine court started the narrative of election meddling. Have you fooled yourself into thinking the NYT article below is fake news?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/12/world/europe/ukraine-paul-manafort.html

How are you able to deny a fact in favor of another myth? Russia did not "directly" start the narrative. They didn't even indirectly start anything. The NYT times beat the Russians to the story.

@Metal-Brain
Keep it up COMRADE. So speaking on speakerphone to Sondland who was in a café in Kyev surrounded by listeners is a FACT JACK. Chump's WH staff knows good and well he uses unsecured phones.

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
Keep it up COMRADE. So speaking on speakerphone to Sondland who was in a café in Kyev surrounded by listeners is a FACT JACK. Chump's WH staff knows good and well he uses unsecured phones.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/12/world/europe/ukraine-paul-manafort.html

How are you able to deny a fact in favor of another myth? Russia did not "directly" start the narrative. They didn't even indirectly start anything. The NYT times beat the Russians to the story.

@Metal-Brain
So now you are going to deny the Russians paid Manafort 10 million? Or is Manafort just another duped individual, a really nice guy at heart?

@sonhouse said
@Shallow-Blue
When he keeps repeating the same BS line, how am I supposed to reach him?

What do you mean, "how"? When a lake full of vomit keeps washing up on the shore, do you normally start swimming with the tide to try and calm the waves, or do you move your tent to a healthier beach?

You cannot get through to that mind, because there is no mind to get through to. He is deranged, as utterly incapable of rational thought as a blind cave cricket is of looking at the moon. It would be better for you personally to stop spending your energy in trying, but if you are so deranged that you cannot, it would at least be better for the rest of these forums IF YOU STOPPED BLOODY SHOUTING WHILE DOING SO! You're only making yourself look as much of a moron as he is.

@shallow-blue said
What do you mean, "how"? When a lake full of vomit keeps washing up on the shore, do you normally start swimming with the tide to try and calm the waves, or do you move your tent to a healthier beach?

You cannot get through to that mind, because there is no mind to get through to. He is deranged, as utterly incapable of rational thought as a blind cave cricket ...[text shortened]... TOPPED BLOODY SHOUTING WHILE DOING SO! You're only making yourself look as much of a moron as he is.

Look in a mirror.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/12/world/europe/ukraine-paul-manafort.html

How are you able to deny a fact in favor of another myth? Russia did not "directly" start the narrative. They didn't even indirectly start anything. The NYT times beat the Russians to the story.

Fact: The Ukraine court started the narrative. All of the denial in the world will not change that fact.