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    @humy said
    which part of that is "propaganda" and why?
    Is there any part of that you say is false?
    If there is no released experiment describing how it was carried out, but simply a statement of we failed, then it is propaganda.

    Each government around the world needs to try to reinact the US experiment,at least on surfaces.

    The US needs to release how the experiment was carried out. It does explain how different regions of this country and it does help to explain why seasonal viruses dissappear during the summer months.
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    25 Apr '20 22:41
    @Eladar
    It is YOU putting out propaganda. UVC is what kills viruses and not much of that gets to the ground and besides that even if true, it can't kill virus loads inside say Walmart or a mall where no sunlight reaches anyway. So there would be little help one way or the other unless there was a lot of UVC lights inside buildings.

    I just ordered online some UVC lights so we will see.
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    Try giving this a read

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1280232/#!po=41.5000
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    @sonhouse said
    @Eladar
    It is YOU putting out propaganda. UVC is what kills viruses and not much of that gets to the ground and besides that even if true, it can't kill virus loads inside say Walmart or a mall where no sunlight reaches anyway. So there would be little help one way or the other unless there was a lot of UVC lights inside buildings.

    I just ordered online some UVC lights so we will see.
    Look at the link I provided. UVB kills viruses too.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1280232/#!po=41.5000
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    UVC may be stronger, but UVB kills as well.
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    New Cases per million

    New York 456 
    New Jersey 244 
    Massachusetts 711 
    Texas 27 
    Florida 41 
    California 39 


    Tell me what you see between Southern States that are getting more Sunshine and Northern States still in low UV conditions?
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    From the link

    The most effective wavelength for inactivation, 260 nm (55), falls in the UVC range, so-named to differentiate it from near-UV found in ground-level sunlight, i.e., the UVB and UVA portions of the spectrum, 290 to 320 nm and 320 to 380 nm, respectively (51). Nucleic acids are damaged also by UVB and UVA but with lower efficiency than by UVC radiation (64).

    64. Setlow, R. 1960. The use of action spectra to determine the physical state of DNA in vivo. Biochim. Biophys. Acta39:180-181. [PubMed] [Google Scholar]
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    @eladar said
     In 1890, the German microbiologist Robert Koch
    More cutting-edge science!
    Thanks.

    Are you Chief Scientific Advisor for Fox News? or Trump?
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    @wolfgang59

    Are you saying that US scientist are liars?

    These scientists are liars too?

    The most effective wavelength for inactivation, 260 nm (55), falls in the UVC range, so-named to differentiate it from near-UV found in ground-level sunlight, i.e., the UVB and UVA portions of the spectrum, 290 to 320 nm and 320 to 380 nm, respectively (51). Nucleic acids are damaged also by UVB and UVA but with lower efficiency than by UVC radiation (64). 

    64. Setlow, R. 1960. The use of action spectra to determine the physical state of DNA in vivo. Biochim. Biophys. Acta39:180-181. [PubMed] [Google Scholar]
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1280232/#!po=41.5000
    From Wiki

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_water_disinfection

    Solar water disinfection, in short SODIS, is a type of portable water purification that uses solar energy to make biologically-contaminated (e.g. bacteria, viruses, protozoa and worms) water safe to drink. Water contaminated with non-biological agents such as toxic chemicals or heavy metals require additional steps to make the water safe to drink.
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    @eladar said
    @wolfgang59

    Are you saying that US scientist are liars?

    These scientists are liars too?
    No to both.

    Now ... who you working for Fox or Trump?
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    @wolfgang59 said
    No to both.

    Now ... who you working for Fox or Trump?
    You claim that US scientists lie when they claim summer solar light can kill the corona virus on surfaces in 2 minutes.
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    @eladar said
    @humy

    According to the US Homeland Security investigation, covid 19 has a 2 minute half life when exposed to summer level solar light.

    Typically it has an 18 hour half life.

    If we go back into history...

      In 1890, the German microbiologist Robert Koch (who had isolated and described the tuberculosis bacterium in 1882), showed that sunlight killed TB bacteria.

    Does sunlight kill TB bacteria?
    Funny you talk about people reading and living by propaganda when you yourself are doing the exact same, just yours suits your own view point.
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    @trev33 said
    Funny you talk about people reading and living by propaganda when you yourself are doing the exact same, just yours suits your own view point.
    I have provided a scholarly link and a wiki about the topic. I have also provided a link to a video where US scientist experiment results were given.

    You on the other provide nothing beyond your personal opinion.
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    @eladar said
    You claim that US scientists lie when they claim summer solar light can kill the corona virus on surfaces in 2 minutes.
    When?
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    @wolfgang59 said
    When?
    So you agree that summer solar light kills half the Coronavirus present on an exposed surface every 2 minutes.
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