Originally posted by kevcvs57I am not promising proof. I am not demanding proof.
That's all well and good for internal purposes, but you cannot pass it off as proof to a non theist, whilst at the same time demanding objective proof from us and even rejecting that when you get it.
I am happy to submit I have good reason to think I am on the right track to believe the Bible.
I believe we are on the right track to believe in God and in Jesus Christ as the Son of God.
I know you have no proof of Atheism with a mathematical precision. Some Christians may claim to be able to prove God's existence. I don't think I can do more than suggest we are on the right track to believe in God.
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Originally posted by jaywillWhat do we know of the man who wrote John?
Why should I reject this evidence of the things the disciple John has written ?
On what basis should this evidence be discounted and belief in the Son of God be suspended by me ?
Can we trust him?
What was his agenda? (How do we know)
Was he writing from first hand experience or relating an oral tradition?
Can you imagine a jury being presented with a written testimony of an unknown author of unknown character and it being called evidence?
Originally posted by wolfgang59Maybe these references will help answer your questions:
What do we know of the man who wrote John?
Can we trust him?
What was his agenda? (How do we know)
Was he writing from first hand experience or relating an oral tradition?
Can you imagine a jury being presented with a written testimony of an unknown author of unknown character and it being called evidence?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Apostle
http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/john-the-apostle-faq.htm
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08492a.htm
http://ecole.evansville.edu/glossary/johntheo.html