2 Thessalonians 3:10

Originally posted by Rajk999
I have already explained to you that saved by grace does not mean that one has eternal life.

Paul in Ephesians 2 speaks of saved by grace.
And in Ephesians 5 speaks of eternal life in the Kingdom of God.
They are two different things, if you read it for yourself.
I explained to you how they are different already but you rather ignore me.

I strongly ...[text shortened]... ing and continuously repeat the same question over and over even though they have been answered.

Why am I not surprised that you agree with an atheist on Biblical issues. The Bible doesn't ever clearly state that those who are 'saved by grace' do not have eternal life. That is merely you misinterpreting scripture to suit your false doctrine that faith in Jesus is not necessary for salvation.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Why am I not surprised that you agree with an atheist on Biblical issues. The Bible doesn't ever clearly state that those who are 'saved by grace' do not have eternal life. That is merely you misinterpreting scripture to suit your false doctrine that faith in Jesus is not necessary for salvation.

You have to be pretty dense to need Paul to say anything further. Paul said that saved by grace means one thing, but eternal life is obtained by living righteously.

All of the Christian saints were saved by grace but only those who lived righteously will enter the Kingdom of God.

Paul was clear .. nobody who lived unrighteously can have any inheritance in the Kingdom of God.

Originally posted by Rajk999
You have to be pretty dense to need Paul to say anything further. Paul said that saved by grace means one thing, but eternal life is obtained by living righteously.

All of the Christian saints were saved by grace but only those who lived righteously will enter the Kingdom of God.

Paul was clear .. nobody who lived unrighteously can have any inheritance in the Kingdom of God.

No one who lives in the time of the new covenant gets to heaven withour faith in Jesus Christ combined with the righteousness that results.

Originally posted by Eladar
No one who lives in the time of the new covenant gets to heaven withour faith in Jesus Christ combined with the righteousness that results.

Just to prove that all you are able to do is to regurgitate a pile of nonsense church doctrine, kindly show me where the Bible says that anyone 'gets to heaven'.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Just to prove that all you are able to do is to regurgitate a pile of nonsense church doctrine, kindly show me where the Bible says that anyone 'gets to heaven'.

You must have attention deficit issues or like changing topics once you've lost.

Originally posted by Eladar
You must have attention deficit issues or like changing topics once you've lost.

OK I have lost and I have attention deficit issues. . Now ... kindly show me where the Bible says that anyone 'gets to heaven'.

Originally posted by Rajk999
OK I have lost and I have attention deficit issues. . Now ... kindly show me where the Bible says that anyone 'gets to heaven'.

Do you consider God's house heaven?

Originally posted by Eladar
Do you consider God's house heaven?

... kindly show me where the Bible says that anyone 'gets to heaven'

Originally posted by Rajk999
... kindly show me where the Bible says that anyone 'gets to heaven'

So you want exact wording?

Originally posted by Eladar
So you want exact wording?

Clearly you are unable to repeat the doctrine of the Bible. You need to change the wording to suit your church.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Clearly you are unable to repeat the doctrine of the Bible. You need to change the wording to suit your church.

Me thinks you have an axe to grind. I think heaven and getting into heaven might be a good thread.

That way you don't need to side track every thread you respond to with the same discussion.

Originally posted by Rajk999
You have to be pretty dense to need Paul to say anything further. Paul said that saved by grace means one thing, but eternal life is obtained by living righteously.

All of the Christian saints were saved by grace but only those who lived righteously will enter the Kingdom of God.

Paul was clear .. nobody who lived unrighteously can have any inheritance in the Kingdom of God.

Where does the Bible say that someone who does not live righteously is saved?

Whoever claims to be saved but does not live righteously is obviously not saved.

Romans 1:17
For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith."

Galatians 3:11
But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.”

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Where does the Bible say that someone who does not live righteously is saved?

Whoever claims to be saved but does not live righteously is obviously not saved.

Romans 1:17
For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith."

Galatians 3:11
But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.”

He has already agreed he was wrong about faith. He now agrees faith is required, either that or he lied.

Originally posted by Eladar
He has already agreed he was wrong about faith. He now agrees faith is required, either that or he lied.

And he will never admit that he was wrong, he will either insult you or change the subject.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
And he will never admit that he was wrong, he will either insult you or change the subject.

He said he agreed he lost the debate and that he was wrong.