Originally posted by jaywillHe is ignorant and arrogant and doesn't really want to know the truth for
Some of us who are serious about wanting to really understand the Bible have to consider ALL the passages together. We don't feel it is honest to only be biased or one sided about the issues spoken to in the 66 books of the Bible.
For example, your observations considered in a fuller light:
[quote] You don't think that keeping slaves and beating them ...[text shortened]... m is hardly reliable to the serious student of the Bible's full teaching.
he does not want to be accountable to anyone and will not acknowledge
that we have a loving God. I see it as a waste of time to explain anything
to him. I wish it were not so and I was wrong. But he is sure he knows
the truth.
Originally posted by RJHindsPossibly true.
He is ignorant and arrogant and doesn't really want to know the truth for
he does not want to be accountable to anyone and will not acknowledge
that we have a loving God. I see it as a waste of time to explain anything
to him. I wish it were not so and I was wrong. But he is sure he knows
the truth.
My typos were bad in that post. I meant to write:
"This, we Christians consider a more final word on the stoning law of the Old Testament. There is the New Covenant which is the final word - the New Testament about redemption in Christ and forgiveness and freedom from the guilt and power of sins of all kinds. "
Originally posted by jaywillIt want matter what you meant to say to him. In his mind, its a bunch
Possibly true.
My typos were bad in that post. I meant to write:
"This, we Christians consider a more final word on the stoning law of the Old Testament. There is the New Covenant which is the final word - the New Testament about redemption in Christ and forgiveness and freedom from the guilt and power of sins of all kinds. "
of hogwash anyway.
Originally posted by jaywill""And if a man strikes his male servant or his female servant with a rod, and the servant dies under his hand, he shall surely be punished." (Exodus 21:20)"
Some of us who are serious about wanting to really understand the Bible have to consider ALL the passages together. We don't feel it is honest to only be biased or one sided about the issues spoken to in the 66 books of the Bible.
For example, your observations considered in a fuller light:
[quote] You don't think that keeping slaves and beating them ...[text shortened]... m is hardly reliable to the serious student of the Bible's full teaching.
The inference is clearly that it is OK to strike a servant with a rod but not kill them. Is this OK?
Originally posted by wolfgang59Not clear to my warped mind.
[b]""And if a man strikes his male servant or his female servant with a rod, and the servant dies under his hand, he shall surely be punished." (Exodus 21:20)"
The inference is clearly that it is OK to strike a servant with a rod but not kill them. Is this OK?[/b]
Originally posted by sumydidIn my brainwashing growing up as a Southern Baptist, we were taught that a day of creation was equal to 1000 years. Sorry no elaboration.
As we know. The bible says God created the universe in 6 days and rested on the 7th.
Can anyone here confidently define the unit of time the bible calls a "day?" If so, please elaborate.
Originally posted by moon1969I think that is because Adam lived over 900 years and they interpret the
In my brainwashing growing up as a Southern Baptist, we were taught that a day of creation was equal to 1000 years. Sorry no elaboration.
Holy Bible as saying he was to die in the day he sinned. Then they
combine that with the statement that a day is with the Lord as a thousand
years. I was raised a Southern Baptist myself.
Originally posted by RJHindsI knew someone who could bore the pants of a virgin and a day with them was like a thousand years. You reckon god is not much of a conversationalist? I guess nobody likes a "know-all".
I think that is because Adam lived over 900 years and they interpret the
Holy Bible as saying he was to die in the day he sinned. Then they
combine that with the statement that a day is with the Lord as a thousand
years. I was raised a Southern Baptist myself.
Originally posted by wolfgang59None of use can really understand God; but we do not have to understand
I knew someone who could bore the pants of a virgin and a day with them was like a thousand years. You reckon god is not much of a conversationalist? I guess nobody likes a "know-all".
Him in order to love Him.
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Originally posted by sumydidCanon of Scripture often uses 'language of accomodation' to communicate information (qualitatively infinite and overwhelming in scope) to finite creatures. Second Person of the Trinity created all things with the word of His power in an instant of 'time'. Days simply outline various categories of His creation as contrasted with unit of measure per se. "He rested" on the 7th day provides an emphatic, bold and definitive punctuation mark to indicate execution of an aspect of His Perfect Plan was thus completed.
As we know. The bible says God created the universe in 6 days and rested on the 7th.
Can anyone here confidently define the unit of time the bible calls a "day?" If so, please elaborate.
Note: These comments focus on the initial phase of creation in Genesis 1. Continuation of the next phase in Chapter 2 as well as 'Restoration' of the earth following the flood will keep for another day and another thread. Must confess I just happened in here, sumy, and haven't yet read the entire conversation in progress but would imagine those robust individuals of 'evolution theory' persuasion and/or atheistic leaning must be having a field day reaming you a new one. Remember, this too shall pass.
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIt's not (to me) completely clear from what you say here...
Canon of Scripture often uses [b]'language of accomodation' to communicate information (qualitatively infinite and overwhelming in scope) to finite creatures. Second Person of the Trinity created all things with the word of His power in an instant of 'time'. Days simply outline various categories of His creation as contrasted with unit of mea ...[text shortened]... ust be having a field day reaming you a new one. Remember, this too shall pass.
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Do you think genesis is a literal account of creation or an allegory or metaphor of creation?
Also do you really believe there was a worldwide flood that submerged ALL the land worldwide
and that all living non-aquatic creatures worldwide were saved by one family in a big wooden boat?
Originally posted by googlefudgeYes.
It's not (to me) completely clear from what you say here...
Do you think genesis is a literal account of creation or an allegory or metaphor of creation?
Also do you really believe there was a worldwide flood that submerged ALL the land worldwide
and that all living non-aquatic creatures worldwide were saved by one family in a big wooden boat?
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyOk, well that makes it clear. Thank you.
Yes.
There is a great Eddie Izzard quote from one of his stand-up routines where he talks about
the flood.
And he says of anyone who thinks you can round up all the animals on the planet and put
them in an ark, "Try it".
You try (with 8 people, and no technology beyond that available 4000 yrs ago) going
everywhere on earth rounding up every creature not capable of surviving a worldwide flood
and bringing it back to your starting point (which would have required many many boat trips
crossing oceans at a time when sea faring was very limited and perilous) and at the same time
building a boat large enough to house all the creatures and their food, while keeping them
separated and alive.
The boat described in the bible is way way too small, and their is no way (even if he lived to a
ridiculous 900yrs old) that anyone could travel the world and round up at least 2 of every creature
that couldn't survive a flood. And that's today bearing in mind we have made quite a few species
extinct since then.
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