Originally posted by vistesd
I also owe you and apology for lashing out at you unfairly some time back. I was wrong; I apologize.
[b]I think there is ground to view the two words as not always necessarily the same in meaning.
My initial thinking is that you’re right, and you have put it perfectly. Sometimes Jewish translators use “create” for b’riah, and I think some distinction between them. And likely that is what you what you were getting at. (Am I rusty!)[/b]
I also owe you and apology for lashing out at you unfairly some time back. I was wrong; I apologize.
It is forgiven. I probably got on your last nerve.
This activity goes best when I pray before and after posting, which is not always.
I think there is ground to view the two words as not always necessarily the same in meaning.
My initial thinking is that you’re right, and you have put it perfectly. Sometimes Jewish translators use “create” for b’riah, and I think sometimes “made”. But I’m going from dim recall (even if I still am able to remember a bit of my Hebrew without looking it up—and it was never as extensive as it should have been anyway).
I do not read Hebrew. I recall G.H. Pember saying that without revelation, it is doubtful that humans would have a word dedicated completely to the idea of something coming into being from nothing at all.
So, he says there is some overlap between bara and asah. But to expect a word which has NO other meaning except creation from no previous existing material, in his opinion, would only exist because of the speaking of God to man.
What do you think about that ?
There is some really fascinating expositions of Genesis from a Jewish MIT science eprofessor. I have no firm opinion on it yet. But he certainly did his homework in both science and the Hebrew language of Genesis:
Schreoder is the professor's name.
Now this guy is not an evangelical Christian. So give me a little credit for open mindedness.
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I set aside my Jewish studies a couple of years ago now, I think. Maybe I need to get back to it; and the only way I ever do that is in a participatory manner—e.g., observing Sabbath (even if in a heterodox way). And Torah study is a central practice. We’ll see…. Be well.