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Originally posted by @fmf
Be that as it may, but being drunk is not immoral in and of itself.
That's not a perspective. It's your opinion, and it contradicts what the Bible says about getting drunk.

Not to mention the statistics associated with heavy drinking in the world today. Devastating to the lives of more people than anything else.

Your arguments are foolish.


FMF: Be that as it may, but being drunk is not immoral in and of itself.

Originally posted by @secondson
That's not a perspective.
Yes. It is a perspective.

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Originally posted by @secondson
Not to mention the statistics associated with heavy drinking in the world today. Devastating to the lives of more people than anything else.
I believe drunk driving is immoral.

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Originally posted by @rajk999
Apparently every doctrine which conflicts with your church doctrine is of the evil one. The truth of the matter is that your church is of the evil one because it denies the critical teachings of Christ pertaining to good works and righteousness as essential prerequisites for eternal life in the Kingdom of God. Your teachings are unChristlike and unbiblical. ...[text shortened]... h is a sin. Being merry is not a sin but if it leads to worldliness and materialism it is a sin.
"Drinking a lot is okay".

Where's the line crossed? Because drinking a lot will likely lead to getting drunk. And when 'anybody' gets drunk, their likelihood of doing something regrettable is inevitable.

By providing more wine, Jesus seemed to ignore the consequences of what would likely happen to the guests on THAT evening.


Originally posted by @chaney3
By providing more wine, Jesus seemed to ignore the consequences of what would likely happen to the guests on THAT evening.
The "consequences" of drinking are for each person drinking to weigh and manage. Perhaps that is a lesson that can be extracted from the story.

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Originally posted by @chaney3
...when 'anybody' gets drunk, their likelihood of doing something regrettable is inevitable.
Nonsense.

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Originally posted by @fmf
Nonsense.
It's absolutely true!!

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Originally posted by @chaney3
It's absolutely true!!
No you are mistaken. "Regrettable" or immoral actions when drunk are not "inevitable".

I wonder if you are ultimately just looking for some some sort of religionist absolution to free you of your personal responsibility.


Originally posted by @chaney3
It's absolutely true!!
On the rare occasions I have become drunk (and you can count them on one hand) I simply go extremely quiet, before falling asleep. This frustrated my sister considerably, who plied me with alcohol over the Christmas period believing it would make me more sociable.

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
On the rare occasions I have become drunk (and you can count them on one hand) I simply go extremely quiet, before falling asleep. This frustrated my sister considerably, who plied me with alcohol over the Christmas period believing it would make me more sociable.
In most cases, all inhibitions are absent, and people make decisions while drunk that they would never make while sober.

Not sure why this FACT is being disputed.


Originally posted by @chaney3
In most cases, all inhibitions are absent, and people make decisions while drunk that they would never make while sober.

Not sure why this FACT is being disputed.
Immoral acts are immoral acts, drunk or sober. Being drunk is not inherently immoral.

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Originally posted by @chaney3
In most cases, all inhibitions are absent....
Sheer nonsense.

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chaney3, if drinking alcohol makes you do immoral things, don't drink alcohol.

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Originally posted by @chaney3
In most cases, all inhibitions are absent, and people make decisions while drunk that they would never make while sober.

Not sure why this FACT is being disputed.
My self-control is impervious to alcohol.

The only fact you have highlighted sir is that 'some' people can't handle their alcohol.

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Originally posted by @fmf
Immoral acts are immoral acts, drunk or sober. Being drunk is not inherently immoral.
Why are you dismissing the fact that drunk people often make bad decisions 'because' they are drunk??

Drunk & bad decisions go hand in hand.

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