11 Aug 18
Originally posted by @chaney3I can agree that everybody on the planet who acts in an immoral way because of alcohol should refrain from consuming it. If you can't handle the booze, don't booze. Wherever you are on the planet.
This is true for everybody on the planet....except for you and Ghost, apparently.
Denial.
11 Aug 18
Originally posted by @fmfYou are not making a rational argument here. A drunk person will always make a decision that he would likely not make when sober. The reason?? He's drunk!!
I can agree that everybody on the planet who acts in an immoral way because of alcohol should refrain from consuming it. If you can't handle the booze, don't booze. Wherever you are on the planet.
Your argument to the contrary is laughable.
11 Aug 18
Originally posted by @chaney3Unless the decision is one that results in immoral behaviour, it does not matter. Being diffrent when drunk as opposed to when sober is not morally unsound in and of itself.
You are not making a rational argument here. A drunk person will always make a decision that he would likely not make when sober. The reason?? He's drunk!!
Your argument to the contrary is laughable.
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11 Aug 18
Originally posted by @chaney3Say, for a moment, that you are wrong and this isn't true for everybody. Do you think there is a possibility you are merely projecting personal experiences with alcohol in a bid to subconsciously normalize the effect it has on your self-control?
This is true for everybody on the planet....except for you and Ghost, apparently.
Denial.
11 Aug 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeYes.
Say, for a moment, that you are wrong and this isn't true for everybody. Do you think there is a possibility you are merely projecting personal experiences with alcohol in a bid to subconsciously normalize the effect it has on your self-control?
But I'm not discussing the differences between alcoholics, heavy drinkers and social drinkers. Those labels are insignificant when 'anyone' finds themselves to be drunk.
Are you arguing that a non alcoholic is immune to horrible decisions when drunk?
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11 Aug 18
Originally posted by @chaney3We have already established that even sobriety is no defense against poor decisions. Where you are clearly wrong is saying poor decisions when drunk are inevitable. (If extrapolating outside of yourself).
Yes.
But I'm not discussing the differences between alcoholics, heavy drinkers and social drinkers. Those labels are insignificant when 'anyone' finds themselves to be drunk.
Are you arguing that a non alcoholic is immune to horrible decisions when drunk?
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11 Aug 18
Originally posted by @chaney3There is actually a case to be argued that alcohol can improve decision making, in as much as it triggers the fight or flight response in the brain, eliminating procrastination and dithering.
You are not making a rational argument here. A drunk person will always make a decision that he would likely not make when sober. The reason?? He's drunk!!
Your argument to the contrary is laughable.
11 Aug 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke"Improve"??
There is actually a case to be argued that alcohol can improve decision making, in as much as it triggers the fight or flight response in the brain, eliminating procrastination and dithering.
How about just hasten?
My point is that rash and quick decisions are often made while drunk....and hardly not the best.
And psst....you have not won!!
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11 Aug 18
Originally posted by @chaney3With respect sir, we won 3 pages back.
"Improve"??
How about just hasten?
My point is that rash and quick decisions are often made while drunk....and hardly not the best.
And psst....you have not won!!
Quick decisions, even when drunk, can be instinctive and astute.
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11 Aug 18
There was a famous study done in Vienna in the 1940's that gave high doses of alcohol to hamsters in a controlled laboratory environment and where strong evidence was collated that alcohol not only sped up the hamsters' decision-making process but also led them to seek out higher quality cheese.
11 Aug 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeYour obsession with cheese has likely jaded your perspective of this study.
There was a famous study done in Vienna in the 1940's that gave high doses of alcohol to hamsters in a controlled laboratory environment and where strong evidence was collated that alcohol not only sped up the hamsters' decision-making process but also led them to seek out higher quality cheese.
Right?