@RJHinds and burning in hell

Originally posted by RJHinds
So you don't believe that there is a devil called Satan or a hell for those that are evil.

Wut?

How has me explaining that I believe in eternity, related to the devil and hell?

Originally posted by divegeester
Indeed, no it isn't.

I wonder if this passionate adherence to the burning in hell doctrine is actually driven by a need for it. What I mean is that if there is not a horrible eternal end place for the ungodly, does that somehow diminish the place of the righteous - a sort of - the more worse off you are, the better off I am mindset.

Look ...[text shortened]... term) causal and sometimes smug acceptance of torture beyond a holocaust scale quite nauseating.

Look at sonship's statement about those who mistreat him being in hell helps him forgive them; where would his forgiveness be if they were just not in existence anymore?

Quote me.

Originally posted by sonship
Quote me.

You're being ridiculous. You were hoisted by your own petard with your comments about how your Christian life was made easier by the 'knowledge' that those who you saw as your enemies would face torture for eternity, administered by your wrathful and vengeful God figure. Your subsequent damage limitation posts were just convoluted attempts to airbrush what you'd actually and clearly said. 🙂

Divegeester,

Look at sonship's statement about those who mistreat him being in hell helps him forgive them;

To "look at" the statement, the best way is to quote it.
Go find it. Quote me.

Originally posted by sonship

Look at sonship's statement about those who mistreat him being in hell helps him forgive them;

To "look at" the statement, the best way is to quote it.
Go find it. Quote me.

I, for one, reposted it several times ~ uneditted, verbatim ~ and you wriggled and squirmed and generally Went Hairdryer. So, you know full well what you said.

Originally posted by sonship
Divegeester,

Look at sonship's statement about those who mistreat him being in hell helps him forgive them;

To "look at" the statement, the best way is to quote it.
Go find it. Quote me.

Are you saying that you never said it?

(that the fact those who mistreat you will end up in eternal hell helps you forgive them)

Originally posted by divegeester
Are you saying that you never said it?

(that the fact those who mistreat you will end up in eternal hell helps you forgive them)

quote me. Point out the words "end up in eternal hell". But if not simply quote to "look at" it.

I believe I wrote two different posts saying and clarifying against distortions of what I meant.

Go find it.

Originally posted by sonship
I believe I wrote two different posts saying and clarifying against distortions of what I meant.

You wriggled and you squirmed in your efforts to "restate" what you'd said so that it would then be different from what it was that you'd said.

Originally posted by sonship
quote me. Point out the words "end up in eternal hell". But if not simply quote to "look at" it.

I believe I wrote two different posts saying and clarifying against distortions of what I meant.

Go find it.

Before I do, are you saying you never said it?

Originally posted by divegeester
Before I do, are you saying you never said it?

You said we should "look at" it.
All you need to do is quote me so we can "look at" it.

Quote me so we can look at what I wrote.

Originally posted by sonship
quote me. Point out the words "end up in eternal hell". But if not simply quote to "look at" it.

I believe I wrote two different posts saying and clarifying against distortions of what I meant.

Go find it.

You wrote a number of posts wriggling out of what you said. Which in essence was, that your knowledge that those who mistreat you will end up internal hell - (which was the topic we were discussing) helps you forgive them. You can try to wriggle now by using quotation marks around "my actual words" here today - but the essence of what you were saying at that time was exactly that, even if the "words" are different. Let me know if you decide to deny it and I'll look it up.

Originally posted by sonship
You said we should [b]"look at" it.
All you need to do is quote me so we can "look at" it.

Quote me so we can look at what I wrote.[/b]

You know full well what you wrote. I'd venture to bet ~ seeing as it was such a heart-stoppingly ghastly thing to say, and you clearly knew it at the time ~ that you know exactly where it is and on what thread.

Originally posted by sonship
You said we should [b]"look at" it.
All you need to do is quote me so we can "look at" it.

Quote me so we can look at what I wrote.[/b]

Do you deny saying that your knowledge of where those who mistreat you will end up, helps you to forgive them? yes or no?

Originally posted by FMF
You know full well what you wrote. I'd venture to bet ~ seeing as it was such a heart-stoppingly ghastly thing to say, and you clearly knew it at the time ~ that you know exactly where it is and on what thread.

Good assertions. "You know full well, thus and such ..."

Are you afraid to put the quotation up?

Originally posted by sonship
Good assertions. "You know full well, thus and such ..."

Are you afraid to put the quotation up?

Not at all. But i want you to deny it categorically before I do.