Originally posted by divegeester
What do you as a Christian think of sonship's claims that unbelievers will be [b]"hung out in chains of punishment as a warning for other worlds"?
And that he sees this as "glorifying god"?[/b]
It seems like you want me to get into pleasing men.
Some men will be displeased if I teach the Bible faithfully.
To the questions below divegeester, I expect succinct and direct answers as alternative ways of deriving the basic message of
Isaiah 66:22-23.. You can explain your interpretation of this passage along several lines:
" For as the new heavens and new earth, which I make,
Remain before Me, declares Jehovah, So will your seed and your name remain. (v.22)
And from new moon to new moon and from Sabbath to Sabbath
all flesh will come to bow down before Me, says Jehovah. (v.23)
Then they will go forth and look on the carcasses of the men that have transgressed against Me; For their worm will not die, Nor will their fire be quenched; And they will be an abhorence to all flesh." (v.24)
1.) Explain why God would have the inabitants of the new heavens and new earth go and observe what is described in verses 23 and 24.
2.) What is your better explanation as to WHY God would have the saved do this if not to be
added to many other ways in which He is glorified ?
3.) If this is a spectacle from
"new moon to new moon" and
"from Sabbath to Sabbath" why would punished NOT be annihilated into ashes (non-existent) within that period of elapsing time?
4.) How come in one month time their burning has not totally obliterated all trace of their existence?
5.) How do you think
Jesus Christ interpreted the phrase
"For their worm will not die, Nor will their fire be quenched" when He made reference to this passage in the following New Testament instances:
Mark 9:47 - 49 - "And if your eye stumbles you, cast it out; it is better for you to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into Gehenna,
Where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched. For everyone will be salted with fire."
I am not asking for a complete exposition of the passage or chapter of
Mark 9. I only ask you to convey whether Jesus lifted this phrase from Isaiah 66:22,23 to:
a.) Indicate a temporary punishment that rather quickly passes the offender to the non-existence of annhilation?
b.) Indicate the the punishment is perpetual and un-extinquishable for the punished?
5.) What do you think God is wanting the saved to contemplate about
"the men who have transgressed against Me" ?
6.) Whatever you ascertain God wants the observing of this scene on occasion
"from new moon to new moon and from Sabbath to Sabbath" could it be in anyway "for the glory of God"?
I do not ask you would it be the
only way glory could be brought to God. I ask you could it, among other ways,
also be a way to bring glory to God?
Please answer each question definitely, clearly without obfuscation behind more questions to me. And appeals to strong emotional outrage is not necessary for this reply. Thankyou.