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@sonship: The trinity doctrine and salvation

@sonship: The trinity doctrine and salvation

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Some trinity believers.

I think it's a kind of 'my dogma can beat seven colours of daylight out of your dogma, mate' and 'you are going to get hung out (burning) on chains as a warning to the inhabitants of other planets' kind of holy-underpants-nailed-to-the-mast thing.


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Are you asking if someone who has read the Bible and denies that Jesus is God is this prrson unsaved?

I would have to say that according to the Bible this is probably true. Such a person denies that Jesus is Lord.

But it is not our call to make. If this is you, then you will find out after you die. No need to ask another person we all have free will. None of us are making the final decision.


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No Christian I know claims that God is Three. God is One. Call it having three 'aspects', if you don't like the word 'persons'.

The Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God. If you deny this, then I do not see how you can say you believe in the deity of Jesus. If you do not deny this, then yes, you believe in the Trinity. End of story.

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Yes, but the question of whether a belief in the Trinity is required for salvation seems almost unimportant except maybe to the extremely self-centered.

The Bible seems clear to me; it clearly lays out what is required for salvation and belief in the Trinity as a concept NOR a belief that man does not go to "everlasting torment" after Judgement is a requirement, even though some here would seem to attempt to "make it so". Christians might be reminded that not believing these "side issues" does not make one any less a Christian. It's a simple concept similar to "the clothes do NOT make the man".

But, clearly, any discussion of the Trinity among those who seemingly don't "get it", begs the question of what the Trinity actually is, and what it is not. If one is going to toss words around, especially in derision, one should probably take care to know what those words actually mean.

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I am not God. You will find out eventually.

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I think it depends on whether your rejection of the trinity includes the total humanisation of Christ. I can't see how you can believe Jesus is God if you don't believe in the trinity and I don't see how you can be saved if you don't believe Jesus is God. Do you reject the trinity but accept Jesus is God?

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Yes. I would say I don't know.

I am interested in how you logically explain the deity of Christ if you don't believe in the trinity? I assume you don't believe you possess a body, soul and spirit yet you are one human being? The idea of unity in diversity doesn't seem too far fetched for me.

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