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@sonship: The trinity doctrine and salvation

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D, good question but you know the answer already, don't you?
The trinity is not a Bible teaching so it is actually a deterrent to
salvation.


Originally posted by whodey
Romans 10:9 If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved

So what do you reckon is soooooo important about declaring Jesus Lord?

More importantly, what does declaring Jesus Lord mean to you?
Even more important, do you understand the difference between Lord and God?


Originally posted by whodey
Saying that Jesus is "Lord" is suggestive to most that this refers to the Trinity. Who else in the Bible is referred to as Lord and why is it so important regarding salvation according to Paul?

Moreover, the verse indicates what is required to have the spirit of God living in you.
Jehovah God is referred to as LORD in the Bible by superstitious translators of the Bible. They did not want to misuse God's Name.
Bible scholars admit that this has caused much confusion including the conclusion by some that Jesus is God. (see Divine Name King James Bible)
(Philippians 2:5, 6) Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.
Jesus did not count himself as equal to God.
He avoided making the mistake that Satan made.
Satan (or Lucifer) thought he was equal to God and even challenged Jehovah.
His big mistake.
Jesus never claimed to be God or equal to God.
He always claimed to be God's son and taught his followers the same.
(Matthew 16:15-17) He said to them: “You, though, who do you say I am?” 16 Simon Peter answered: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Joʹnah, because flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my Father in the heavens did.


John 1:1 says that Jesus was with God in the beginning and that Jesus is God.


Originally posted by Eladar
John 1:1 says that Jesus was with God in the beginning and that Jesus is God.
Jesus is god because Jehovah gave him god-like qualities when He made Jesus as an angel.
Jesus in John 1:1 is not "ho theos", The Most High God.
(Psalm 83:18) May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You .....ALONE..... are the Most High over all the earth.

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Originally posted by roigam
Jesus is god because Jehovah gave him god-like qualities when He made Jesus as an angel.
Jesus in John 1:1 is not "ho theos", The Most High God.
(Psalm 83:18) May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You .....ALONE..... are the Most High over all the earth.
Maybe you can point me to the scripture that says God made the angel Jesus.

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Originally posted by Eladar
Maybe you can point me to the scripture that says God made the angel Jesus.
John 1:1-3

If nothing was made without Jesus, then how could Jesus be made? Jesus had to exist before anything was made.

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Originally posted by Eladar
John 1:1-3

If nothing was made without Jesus, then how could Jesus be made? Jesus had to exist before anything was made.
So Jesus can't be a created being.

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So why do you reject the divinity of the Holy Spirit?

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I wasn't. I was responding to the idea that Jesus was an angel that was given God status.

In other words, Jesus is just what Satan wanted to be.

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