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Originally posted by ZahlanziPerhaps your bias is too deeply entrenched in your mind for you to see objectively enough to sort through the lies.
who says the bible is wholly inspired by God? if it is, then who says god spoke the truth when he inspired it? after all, god seems to have placed a lot of "proofs" around the world to confuse man into thinking the earth is older than 6000 years like isotope decay and dinosaurs. why is he telling the truth in noah's story?
if it is not wholly inspired by watch cartoons. it will take another month or so until we attempt another evolution thread
The Bible is the most maligned book in the world, and the most misunderstood.
And no wonder!
Why do you think it unusual and out of character for God to destroy all living things with a flood?
Originally posted by KellyJayit didn't say anything about there being dinosaurs. in fact anywhere in the bible it doesn't say about killing the dinosaurs.
How much time do you think passed before the flood from the day
of creation?
It wasn't a lot, and in the text before the flood do you see any
thing at all suggesting that God killed off the dinosaurs?
Kelly
what are we suppose to conclude from this? that a thing didn't happen if it doesn't say so in the bible? that somewhere there are raptors making kebab out of people? that T-rex only come out at night and become invisible when people try to photograph them?
bear in mind that when the first dinosaur bones were first discovered, people thought that god wouldn't wipe one of it's own creations so the huge reptilian skeletons must have belonged to living yet to be discovered animals. but then they stopped using the bible as a universal repository of knowledge and realized god might have forgot to mention the dinos or better still, he deemed it unnecessary to tell mankind something it will discover on it's own once they realized the bible is not an encyclopaedia.
tell me if it is a different point you are trying to make.
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Originally posted by ZahlanziThe Bible would have issues if it did on that point since the
it didn't say anything about there being dinosaurs. in fact anywhere in the bible it doesn't say about killing the dinosaurs.
what are we suppose to conclude from this? that a thing didn't happen if it doesn't say so in the bible? that somewhere there are raptors making kebab out of people? that T-rex only come out at night and become invisible when peo is not an encyclopaedia.
tell me if it is a different point you are trying to make.
word dinosaur wasn't coined until just a little while back.
Kelly
Originally posted by ZahlanziEarly on there were no meat eaters, every animal and human too ate
it didn't say anything about there being dinosaurs. in fact anywhere in the bible it doesn't say about killing the dinosaurs.
what are we suppose to conclude from this? that a thing didn't happen if it doesn't say so in the bible? that somewhere there are raptors making kebab out of people? that T-rex only come out at night and become invisible when peo ...[text shortened]... is not an encyclopaedia.
tell me if it is a different point you are trying to make.
plants! After the flood that changed, so during the flood, no big deal
riding in the Ark with the animals.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayhey i only said the people who created the noah story were either ignorant or god was telling a fairy tale. i never said (if i did i apologize) that they were stupid.
Early on there were no meat eaters, every animal and human too ate
plants! After the flood that changed, so during the flood, no big deal
riding in the Ark with the animals.
Kelly
all loose ends that an ancient man would have asked were taken care of.
Originally posted by KellyJaysure, though a massive t-rex could have shown on the egyptian temples or in some stories. the sumerians created gilgamesh, the indians ramayana, you would think they could make several stories where a person kills a T-rex or is eaten by one.
The Bible would have issues if it did on that point since the
word dinosaur wasn't coined until just a little while back.
Kelly
the closest thing to a dinosaur is the hercules story killing the hydra i think.
Originally posted by ZahlanziThe earth was not very old right before the flood, so the dino's that
sure, though a massive t-rex could have shown on the egyptian temples or in some stories. the sumerians created gilgamesh, the indians ramayana, you would think they could make several stories where a person kills a T-rex or is eaten by one.
the closest thing to a dinosaur is the hercules story killing the hydra i think.
were large were more than likely those from the dawn of time. If you
were Noah, would you have taken an older dino that could have sunk
the ark with its size or a young one? If I'm not mistaken and I could
be, I believe the largest dino egg ever found was the size of an
American football, which meant the younger ones would have been
small and Noah would not have needed to take a large one on board.
Kelly
Originally posted by ZahlanziThere are stories of dragons world wide, the stories would not have
sure, though a massive t-rex could have shown on the egyptian temples or in some stories. the sumerians created gilgamesh, the indians ramayana, you would think they could make several stories where a person kills a T-rex or is eaten by one.
the closest thing to a dinosaur is the hercules story killing the hydra i think.
included the name T-Rex or something along those lines, but some
other name since T-Rex is also a new name as well. Difficult to say,
and how many made it even after the flood too, don't know.
Kelly
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Originally posted by KellyJayIs the suggestion here that dinosaurs existed at the same time as primates? Really? No, really??
The earth was not very old right before the flood, so the dino's that
were large were more than likely those from the dawn of time. If you
were Noah, would you have taken an older dino that could have sunk
the ark with its size or a young one? If I'm not mistaken and I could
be, I believe the largest dino egg ever found was the size of an
American foot ...[text shortened]... nes would have been
small and Noah would not have needed to take a large one on board.
Kelly
Monkeys are flying out of my butt as I type this. Really. Monkeys - plural.
No, really. With God all things are possible. It feels worse than the worse imaginable case of hemmeroids. Monkeys, real live monkeys. They're very small...ok, maybe they're lemurs, butt still.....
Originally posted by josephwperhaps religion is so entrenched in your mind that you think any attempt at reason and independent thought is a sin, a blasphemy, an abomination against god. why did we receive a mind then? to let it to rot and not question the world around us? and it would not be any blasphemy anyway, how do we know that the bible is god's word?
Perhaps your bias is too deeply entrenched in your mind for you to see objectively enough to sort through the lies.
The Bible is the most maligned book in the world, and the most misunderstood.
And no wonder!
Why do you think it unusual and out of character for God to destroy all living things with a flood?
how do you know that.
kind of pointless for god to destroy all mankind. why did he created in the first place if he knew that at a certain point he will destroy it. why did he save just noah? did he not find a single other good human being besides him? how about the children, they were without sin, why didn't he save the children as well? sure, god CAN do the flood. but if we find there is no evidence left about the flood except the bible and we know a lot of people contributed to the text, some might not have been inspired by god, and we know science contradicts the idea of a flood, then why assume it really happened?
Originally posted by KellyJaywhy take one at all? since god would wipe them anyway? since we never find a t-rex in any egyptian or sumerian drawing, then it is safe to assume they were wiped before somewhere after 6000 years and 5000 ago.
The earth was not very old right before the flood, so the dino's that
were large were more than likely those from the dawn of time. If you
were Noah, would you have taken an older dino that could have sunk
the ark with its size or a young one? If I'm not mistaken and I could
be, I believe the largest dino egg ever found was the size of an
American foot ...[text shortened]... nes would have been
small and Noah would not have needed to take a large one on board.
Kelly
so god creates an entire ecosystem of animals just to have it destroyed during the course of roughly 1000 years. intelligent design? not so intelligent by my opinion. of course, you and the rest of the yecs are calling god a blundering idiot. i hold him to be quite smart comming up with the brilliant idea that is evolution.
Originally posted by KellyJaysure, so by your argument, because of the stories of dragons, we are still to find skeletons of unicorns, and pegasi. and don't forget to say "i do believe in faeries" else tinkerbell's grandchildren will die.
There are stories of dragons world wide, the stories would not have
included the name T-Rex or something along those lines, but some
other name since T-Rex is also a new name as well. Difficult to say,
and how many made it even after the flood too, don't know.
Kelly
do you listen to yourself, common.
Originally posted by Zahlanzi"perhaps religion is so entrenched in your mind..."
perhaps religion is so entrenched in your mind that you think any attempt at reason and independent thought is a sin, a blasphemy, an abomination against god. why did we receive a mind then? to let it to rot and not question the world around us? and it would not be any blasphemy anyway, how do we know that the bible is god's word?
how do you know that.
...[text shortened]... god, and we know science contradicts the idea of a flood, then why assume it really happened?
On the contrary. I have no "religious" thoughts at all.
What I believe is "truth". That is, objective truth that has it's origin in the person of Jesus Christ.
"...how do we know that the bible is god's word?"
It begins with the realization of who Jesus is. Untill you know and believe that Jesus is the son of God, and that He died for your sins, and trust in the fact that He died for you personally, and then have the Holy Spirit in you, you won't know at all.
Originally posted by ZahlanziThe whole thing sounded a little silly to me until I really started to search for myself. The more I searched the more I believed. This happens a lot with many PhD scientists. They are converted to a faith because of what they discover.
sure, so by your argument, because of the stories of dragons, we are still to find skeletons of unicorns, and pegasi. and don't forget to say "i do believe in faeries" else tinkerbell's grandchildren will die.
do you listen to yourself, common.
To relate to your quote. There are pictographs of dinosaurs in caves. To expand on Kelly's point of what happened to the dinosaurs after the flood. The fewer numbers would have made it more difficult to reproduce. It is already difficult for larger animals to reproduce as is. This is one of the reasons for Wholly Mammoths extinctions.