29 Nov '08 22:04>
Originally posted by josephwSo, if I cannot possibly know the truth without accepting that Jesus is God's son, and without having the holy spirit in me, then what are you doing wasting your words trying to expound the truth to me and convince me of it. You surely don't claim to be Jesus or the holy spirit, but it seems to me that you don't trust Jesus to do his own explaining?
[b]"perhaps religion is so entrenched in your mind..."
On the contrary. I have no "religious" thoughts at all.
What I believe is "truth". That is, objective truth that has it's origin in the person of Jesus Christ.
"...how do we know that the bible is god's word?"
It begins with the realization of who Jesus is. Untill you know and bel ...[text shortened]... died for you personally, and then have the Holy Spirit in you, you won't know at all.[/b]
Is it your contention that you can do a better job of converting the sinners than the God who created them?