Originally posted by vivifySee what I mean?
You mean the same Duchess that saw Marinktomb's post pointing out how weak a player was (Women's Olympiad thread), as sexism against women? Evem though Duchess admitted that this player was a novice?
Based on your arguments, which have been shown to be weak and circular, it's not surprising you'd use use such a person as a point for anything.
Originally posted by vivifyFrom my viewpoint your arguments are weak and circular, as well. You start with nothing and end with nothing. I start with God and end with God. 😏
You mean the same Duchess that saw Marinktomb's post pointing out how weak a player was (Women's Olympiad thread), as sexism against women? Even though Duchess admitted that this player was a "novice"?
Based on your arguments, which have been shown to be weak and circular, it's not surprising you'd use use such a logically skewed person as a point for anything.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Holy! Holy! Holy!
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Originally posted by RJHindsWhich is going to be a big letdown when you find out in the end this god thing is all in your head.
From my viewpoint your arguments are weak and circular, as well. You start with nothing and end with nothing. I start with God and end with God. 😏
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Holy! Holy! Holy!
And, it was NASA with a few thousand workers like me who got us to the moon.
If it was up to young earthers, we would still be using horses and travois.
Originally posted by sonhouseI am not interested in going to the moon. If God had wanted us there He would have put Adam and Eve there. He wanted us right here on Earth. 😏
Which is going to be a big letdown when you find out in the end this god thing is all in your head.
And, it was NASA with a few thousand workers like me who got us to the moon.
If it was up to young earthers, we would still be using horses and travois.
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Originally posted by RJHindsLike I said.....But I have to modify my last statement. You would not have horses at all, completely satisfied to be walking around the savanna catching rabbits with your bare hands.
I am not interested in going to the moon. If God had wanted us there He would have put Adam and Eve there. He wanted us right here on Earth. 😏
BTW, since I and thousands of others just like me got us to the moon, I don't see your god striking us down, so that must be on the approved list, so you have no bitch about space travel.
And since you seem to be a philosophical Luddite, you are being hypocritical about technology in the first place since you seem to be ok using all that science that NASA engendered like this internet and such, little stuff of course but you seem to like using it.
Originally posted by sonhouseYou worked for NASA? That's awesome beyond words. Glad to have met someone like you, even if just on the internet.
Which is going to be a big letdown when you find out in the end this god thing is all in your head.
And, it was NASA with a few thousand workers like me who got us to the moon.
If it was up to young earthers, we would still be using horses and travois.
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Originally posted by sonhouseAll that technology could have come about with out going to the moon and a lot cheaper I might add. Perhaps we would still have a surplus in our budget. 😏
Like I said.....But I have to modify my last statement. You would not have horses at all, completely satisfied to be walking around the savanna catching rabbits with your bare hands.
BTW, since I and thousands of others just like me got us to the moon, I don't see your god striking us down, so that must be on the approved list, so you have no bitch about ...[text shortened]... A engendered like this internet and such, little stuff of course but you seem to like using it.
P.S. How about all that fuel wasted going to the moon? And I thought Al Gore invented the internet. That's what he said.
Originally posted by vivifyA long time ago in a galaxy far awayyyyyy.....
You worked for NASA? That's awesome beyond words. Glad to have met someone like you, even if just on the internet.
I was an Apollo dude. Apollo tracking and timing to be exact, at Goddard Space Flight center.. Well, till Nixon, dam his soul, decided all Apollo was was a publicity stunt and since we beat the Ruskies to the moon..... bye bye Apollo. Sigh. They even LITERALLY threw away the plans for the Saturn V, so now we are making one of the same size, but starting at scratch. (might not be THAT bad an idea, since we do have 40 years of development in rockets and especially in computer control), still the actual rocket technology hasn't developed ALL that much, not near as much as computer technology has advanced.
One funny thing happened back then. I moved into a house in Alexandria Virginia, on the bottom of the beltway, Goddard of course on top, 40 miles away... but anyway, I started shooting the shyte with the guy next door, turned out he also worked on Apollo as a geological technician, he sliced up the moonrocks to give to the scientists to analyze. So I told him what I did, my lab and all, he says, come up to the geology lab, I'll show you around. I didn't have to be asked twice for that!
He leads me up to his domain, and shows me a vault that would make fort Knox proud, opened it up and a room filled with moon rocks opens up. He said, do you want to hold one? Like, is the Pope Catholic! So he puts a moon rock in my hand. Talk about epiphany! Very alien looking rock I might add. Like a freaky looking lump of asphalt. Anyway, my next thought, which I articulated to him,
WHY ARE YOU LETTING ME TOUCH THIS PRECIOUS ROCK WITH MY BARE HANDS?
He goes, its ok, just being here on Earth contaminates the surface so my job is to clean it up as best we can then slice them in pieces in a VERY clean room which pretty much eliminates the contamination because they are analyzing a slice that was inside the rock. Amazing day for sure!
Originally posted by sonhouseSounds boring to me.
A long time ago in a galaxy far awayyyyyy.....
I was an Apollo dude. Apollo tracking and timing to be exact, at Goddard Space Flight center.. Well, till Nixon, dam his soul, decided all Apollo was was a publicity stunt and since we beat the Ruskies to the moon..... bye bye Apollo. Sigh. They even LITERALLY threw away the plans for the Saturn V, so now w ...[text shortened]... tamination because they are analyzing a slice that was inside the rock. Amazing day for sure!
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Originally posted by sonhouseHey at least you had a decent space program.
A long time ago in a galaxy far awayyyyyy.....
I was an Apollo dude. Apollo tracking and timing to be exact, at Goddard Space Flight center.. Well, till Nixon, dam his soul, decided all Apollo was was a publicity stunt and since we beat the Ruskies to the moon..... bye bye Apollo. Sigh. They even LITERALLY threw away the plans for the Saturn V, so now w ...[text shortened]... tamination because they are analyzing a slice that was inside the rock. Amazing day for sure!
We put up one satellite before the government pulled all the funding and left us without any
kind of launch capacity.
The Saturn V was a horribly inefficient and expensive way to get into space (although very
hard to do better with the technology back then) but man was it exciting and inspiring.
From a science perspective for the moment you can't beat robots.
But doing science is not the only (or even most important) reason for going into space and we
really need a proper fully fledged space manned space program that goes some-place other than
low earth orbit.
As it is I can only dream about what you must have experienced of the excitement of building and
watching a spacecraft go to another world. (serious jealousy here)
Originally posted by googlefudge"The Saturn V was a horribly inefficient and expensive way to get into space"
Hey at least you had a decent space program.
We put up one satellite before the government pulled all the funding and left us without any
kind of launch capacity.
The Saturn V was a horribly inefficient and expensive way to get into space (although very
hard to do better with the technology back then) but man was it exciting and inspiring.
F ...[text shortened]... excitement of building and
watching a spacecraft go to another world. (serious jealousy here)
Yep, no disagreement, but the Saturn V was the vehicle for carrying large pieces of stuff into space, largest rocket we ever built and most thrust. In truth, it was inefficient and expensive as you say, but it was what we had at the time, the state-of-the-art per the long lead time on building anything for NASA (on other projects, we used to joke about there being a paper trail for things going back to when the ore was mined out of the earth for items). Even into modern day times, some of the data related to Saturn V is still in use (for example aerodynamics data for heavy lift vehicles) as a point-of-departure for more modern concepts.