A life saved from the madness

Originally posted by FabianFnas
If you take it out of context, yes. But what I write here is on-topic. And that's about the girl. This girl would have been dead by now if her parents religion was honoured. Hence "religion (their) killes (by this example)".

There are many more examples where religion kills, but that would be off-topic.
There are also many examples where religion save ...[text shortened]... hat my sometimes (often?) lack of English grammar and vocabulary shows. Thank you for this! 🙂 )

"Context" usually requires more than a 5-word post. 😛

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
"Context" usually requires more than a 5-word post. 😛

Yes, you're right, but this context spans from the first posting in this thread, the link included.

And, of course, it was a bit provocative, just to heat up the discussion.

She survived, despite religion, what a joy! Right?
(Even that her parents weren't equally happy...)

Originally posted by divegeester
You're missing the point again (and now I'm pretty sure you do it deliberately) by talking in generalities rather than addressing the specific topic.

You are making all these grandstanding sweeping statements, but answer this specific point: Do you think the state should have let the girl (mentioned on the OP) die by not intervening? Yes or no?

Now listen, so far in this thread you have made it a point to tell someone
that even though they think something is a sin, you are happy about the
state forcing them into it, you are gleeful about the whole thing. The whole
point of this is to rub their nose in it! Now you have twice now said I am
being deliberately dishonest in that I'm missing the point on purpose, so I
guess that is another way of saying I'm lying! You need to figure out even
if we were in agreement how much hate is driving you in this discussion
it most certainly isn't out of love you are doing it.

Yes, if it goes against a religion the state should not force it.

Would I argue on the state's behalf to try and get the girl what she needs,
yes I would.
Kelly

Originally posted by FMF
In terms of this OP, what "sin" are you referring to?

If you don't do anything in faith it is sin, and if anyone for example eats
meat that believes they should not it would be sin to them, if you worship
on a certain day of the week and feel compelled to do so, to do otherwise
would be sin to them. Neither of those things would be sin to me, but I
would most certainly respect them for their souls sake.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
... if anyone for example eats meat that believes they should not it would be sin to them...

So in the context of the supposed 'sin factor' in the scenario in the OP, say, strictly vegetarian parents ~ who happen to think eating meat is a "sin" ~ can let their child die for want of some meat, without having done anything immoral or "sinning", in your view?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Yes, if it goes against a religion the state should not force it.

Do you think that it is every parent's right to simply let their child die and that nobody has the right to intervene?

Originally posted by FMF
So in the context of the supposed 'sin factor' in the scenario in the OP, say, strictly vegetarian parents ~ who happen to think eating meat is a "sin" ~ can let their child die for want of some meat, without having done anything immoral or "sinning", in your view?

Life is full of choices. As I pointed out to you I have no issue with food or
holidays. I do care about what goes on in people lives, and forcing them
to do anything against they will isn't something I'm for. Letting a child die,
when you can help, I'd help! If you were put in a place where you could
save someone by doing something in your mind was evil, would you? Now
keep in mind once you open that door than anything can be justified, and
the choices cut both way as soon as you say never nothing may be saved.
Kelly

Originally posted by FMF
Do you think that it is every parent's right to simply let their child die and that nobody has the right to intervene?

I've answer that already, and explained why too.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
As I pointed out to you I have no issue with food or holidays. I do care about what goes on in people lives, and forcing them to do anything against they will isn't something I'm for. Letting a child die, when you can help, I'd help!

You don't claim the right for yourself, I get that, and you would give food to a child, I know that, but you support the right of parents to let their children die for the want of food, yes?

FMF: Do you think that it is every parent's right to simply let their child die and that nobody has the right to intervene?

Originally posted by KellyJay
I've answer that already, and explained why too.

So do you support abortion rights?

Originally posted by KellyJay
I've answer that already, and explained why too.
Kelly

a child has been possessed by the spirit of the evil african devil catoplebas. unless the child is starved to death, catoplebas will come forth into our world causing the death of billions. the parents decide that it would be a sin against the sky god mulungu and humanity if they didnt starve the child to death...

..should the state stand back and allow them to do it?

Originally posted by FMF
So do you support abortion rights?

I'm prolife. I will argue and discuss it, but in the end as with all of our
choices people are going to do what they are going to do, with or without
the law. Do you believe abortion rights is a religion?
Kelly

Originally posted by FMF
You don't claim the right for yourself, I get that, and you would give food to a child, I know that, but you support the right of parents to let their children die for the want of food, yes?

If it was up to me, I'd get them the food they could eat.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Do you believe abortion rights is a religion?

What do you mean? If I declare an abortion to be a religious act,you will support it?

Originally posted by FMF
What do you mean? If I declare an abortion to be a religious act,you will support it?

No, as I would not support, not getting blood transfusions either.
Kelly