A life saved from the madness

Originally posted by stellspalfie
[b]Yes

why do you think the state should protect children from sexual abuse?[/b]

Answer my question, I've done my best to answer yours.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Answer my question, I've done my best to answer yours.
Kelly

which question?

edit:

Does the state protect children against sexual abuse, I frankly don't think
so. If they really wanted too, keeping an eye on abortion clinics would be
a major concern where under age girls are turning up with child. The money
it seems being generated there is more important than the kids.

sorry, i guess you meant this question. i live in the uk. i would say the state do decent job of protecting children. although i think more money should be spent on social services to increase the protection we can give them.
we dont charge for abortion in the uk, so no profits are made.

edit: your turn, why do you think the state should protect children from sexual abuse?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
which question?

edit:

[b]Does the state protect children against sexual abuse, I frankly don't think
so. If they really wanted too, keeping an eye on abortion clinics would be
a major concern where under age girls are turning up with child. The money
it seems being generated there is more important than the kids.

sorry, i guess you ...[text shortened]... made.

edit: your turn, why do you think the state should protect children from sexual abuse?[/b]

Yes, they should be protected. My question to you was what are you trying
to get at?

Nothing is free, someone is making money unless all of your doctors or
whoever are doing abortions are killing the unborn out of the "goodness" of
their hearts.

Does the government go after the people who caused the girls to be with
child? If not why not? If they are not going after them, do you think that
your government should protect children from sexual abuse?
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Yes, they should be protected. My question to you was what are you trying
to get at?

Nothing is free, someone is making money unless all of your doctors or
whoever are doing abortions are killing the unborn out of the "goodness" of
their hearts.

Does the government go after the people who caused the girls to be with
child? If not why not? If they ...[text shortened]... after them, do you think that
your government should protect children from sexual abuse?
Kelly

My question to you was what are you trying
to get at?

im not trying to 'get at' anything, im trying to understand you. sometimes its easier to break things down to reach an understanding. currently do not understand how you arrive at the decision of when the state should get involved. by answering my questions, it may help me understand your view.


Nothing is free, someone is making money unless all of your doctors or
whoever are doing abortions are killing the unborn out of the "goodness" of
their hearts.

doctors get paid, so yes people make money. i dont think anybody (in the uk) would accuse doctors working in the nhs as 'doing it for the money'.


Does the government go after the people who caused the girls to be with
child? If not why not? If they are not going after them, do you think that
your government should protect children from sexual abuse?

im not clear on the questions here. are the first two referring to abortion or child abuse?

as for the last question, yes i think governments should protect children from child abuse.


your turn: why should governments protect children from sexual abuse?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
[b]My question to you was what are you trying
to get at?

im not trying to 'get at' anything, im trying to understand you. sometimes its easier to break things down to reach an understanding. currently do not understand how you arrive at the decision of when the state should get involved. by answering my questions, it may help me understand you ...[text shortened]... ren from child abuse.


your turn: why should governments protect children from sexual abuse?[/b]

Abuse, murder those are crimes against a person so they should be stopped.

My question was if you know an under age girl ends up with child, than
we know someone got her that way. So, are there processes in place to
see if she was abused, to see if several girls are being abused by a single
male. What is the government doing to protect the children? If nothing is
being done, why?
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Abuse, murder those are crimes against a person so they should be stopped.

Should 'just letting a child die even though it could be saved' be a crime?

Originally posted by KellyJay

My question was if you know an under age girl ends up with child, than
we know someone got her that way. So, are there processes in place to
see if she was abused, to see if several girls are being abused by a single
male. What is the government doing to protect the children? If nothing is
being done, why?

Do the parents in the OP just have the right to let their child die?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Abuse, murder those are crimes against a person so they should be stopped.

My question was if you know an under age girl ends up with child, than
we know someone got her that way. So, are there processes in place to
see if she was abused, to see if several girls are being abused by a single
male. What is the government doing to protect the children? If nothing is
being done, why?
Kelly

"My question was if you know an under age girl ends up with child, than
we know someone got her that way. So, are there processes in place to
see if she was abused, to see if several girls are being abused by a single
male. What is the government doing to protect the children? If nothing is"

yes, in the uk there are processes in place to see if she was abused. if abuse is suspected the police are informed.

Abuse, murder those are crimes against a person so they should be stopped.

in this context how are you defining what 'abuse' is?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Yes, if it goes against a religion the state should not force it.

So if a terrorist religionist sincerely believes failing to follow order to kill an infidel is a sin, you would not object against him doing it on the basis of his conscience being offended?

Originally posted by FMF
Should 'just letting a child die even though it could be saved' be a crime?

Write the law, there are lots of things that should be a crime that are not.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Write the law, there are lots of things that should be a crime that are not.
Kelly

do you think it should be a crime?

Originally posted by divegeester
So if a terrorist religionist sincerely believes failing to follow order to kill an infidel is a sin, you would not object against him doing it on the basis of his conscience being offended?

Nope, murder is a crime. You are seriously twisting this into something
I've not said. If you want to follow devils, and play in that world go for it.
Kelly

Originally posted by stellspalfie
do you think it should be a crime?

How far are you willing to push that! There are kids that die that they do
attempt to save because they have suffered to much damage. There are
kids that are killed before they are born, you want to stop those? Draw the line!
Kelly

Originally posted by FMF
[b]My question was if you know an under age girl ends up with child, than
we know someone got her that way. So, are there processes in place to
see if she was abused, to see if several girls are being abused by a single
male. What is the government doing to protect the children? If nothing is
being done, why?

Do the parents in the OP just have the right to let their child die?[/b]

Do they? Are you speaking of laws, if so were they over ruled?
Kelly

Originally posted by stellspalfie
[b]"My question was if you know an under age girl ends up with child, than
we know someone got her that way. So, are there processes in place to
see if she was abused, to see if several girls are being abused by a single
male. What is the government doing to protect the children? If nothing is"

yes, in the uk there are processes in place to se ...[text shortened]... person so they should be stopped.[/b]

in this context how are you defining what 'abuse' is?[/b]

If minor comes in with child, do they find the guy who did it? I don't know
what you mean when you say they check for abuse. Do they find the father
and see if he is an adult? Do they feel that causing a young girl to become
with child by an adult, NOT abuse? Are you saying if she wasn't forced than
it is okay no matter who did it?
Kelly