-Removed-I see no dilemma. Sonship and I have discussed this before, maybe not with the same animosity as your discussions with him, but it's clear he and I do not agree on this one ideological point.
Yes, FMF quoted sonship, but FMF italicized the salient point. Obviously he agreed. He didn't present the quote and then disagree, but he did present the quote at that specific point in the conversation for a reason.
-Removed-I think the quote highlights the ludicrous figure sonship cuts as both an ideologue and as a supposed moralist. He calls torture for eternity for a thoughtcrime "perfect justice" and insists agreeing with him is some kind of an are-you-a-Christian-or-aren't-you litmus test.
Originally posted by SuzianneI presented the quote demonstrating sonship's advice/belief about "eternal torture" in a response to a divegeester post about "eternal torture".
[FMF] didn't present the quote and then disagree, but he did present the quote at that specific point in the conversation for a reason.
-Removed-Please. Do you think we could dispense with the "FMF-style" of "forum-combat"?
I've stated my reasons for bringing this up. Surely you can read. I know FMF can read and comprehend, therefore his problem must be his covert agenda.
Sonship and I have disagreed, most recently on this very issue of "eternal torment". Most of this was before you showed up in this forum. Yes, things happened here before you showed up.
-Removed-sonship has no need to "explain" what he said. He is consistent with his faith.
I felt that FMF was the one who needed to explain, and since he still denies his motive (of course), he hasn't explained anything (of course). Regardless of what agenda FMF tries to push, it's not sonship's fault, and so there's nothing for sonship to explain. The quote itself is a far different issue than FMF's usage of it to promote the rejection of the Bible.
Originally posted by SuzianneSure. But if sonship has no need to "explain" what he said then I don't really see that there's been any point to anything you've been saying. Why have you been framing my quoting of sonship as "advice" to divegeester? You have been grasping the wrong end of the stick all along.
sonship has no need to "explain" what he said. He is consistent with his faith.
-Removed-2008 may have been when you came to RHP, but you did not start posting here prolifically until more recently. My conversations with others (including sonship) about my disagreement of this "eternal torment" issue was not all that long ago. You can ask him. (But I tend to compress the past. Things I think are "not all that long ago" could have been years ago. It's part of my PTSD.)
I'm just "saying". You going on about my being a "fan" of sonship is somewhat true, but not to the degree you are making it out to be.