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-Removed-Offering up incense was an act of worship, Christ was talking of paying taxes and while i
sympathise with your position, do try to learn something, anything would be better than
this ill informed and blatantly ignorant projection of ignorance, its not an attempt to
condescend to you in any way, but your lack of understanding is really incredulous. To
project it on to others, immoral. Please note i did not write Pliny's history, anyone with
any knowledge of the early history of Christianity will confirm that many early
Christians refused to do an act of worship to Caesar rather than compromise their
integrity, clearly, for you, it would have been no problem, would you also have cursed
Christ when the Romans brought in a statue of Caesar in as well?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieRead again what you've written yourself, robbie. Read it again.
...do try to learn something, anything would be better than this ill informed and blatantly ignorant projection of ignorance, its not an attempt to condescend to you in any way, but your lack of understanding is really incredulous. To project it on to others, immoral. ...
And remember this whenever you have any opinion about evolution and science.
When you have knowledge about evolution and science, then you have the right to have strong opinions against it, but when you don't, just remember the words you've just written.
It's not my words, it's yours.
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Originally posted by FabianFnasFabian, please try to understand, i have no problem with empirical science, its not my
Read again what you've written yourself, robbie. Read it again.
And remember this whenever you have any opinion about evolution and science.
When you have knowledge about evolution and science, then you have the right to have strong opinions against it, but when you don't, just remember the words you've just written.
It's not my words, it's yours.
fault your materialism is based on scant evidence and speculative theories with
amendments and provisos to make it fit the evidence, and i will remind you that this
forum is for spirituality, not non spirituality. Have you observed one species
transmutating into another? No you have not, therefore your reliance on unobserved
phenomena is not scientific for it cannot be observed, can it. Remember Fabian, listen
to Robbie.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieI would gladly discuss evolution with you, but when you, despite your ignorance about the subject, have made up your mind, then it is not worth the effort.
Fabian, please try to understand, i have no problem with empirical science, its not my
fault your materialism is based on scant evidence and speculative theories with
amendments and provisos to make it fit the evidence, and i will remind you that this
forum is for spirituality, not non spirituality. Have you observed one species
transmutatin ...[text shortened]... omena is not scientific for it cannot be observed, can it. Remember Fabian, listen
to Robbie.
If you don't know the subejct, stay shut. It's your own advice, remember?
Originally posted by FabianFnastwo words, unobserved phenomena!
I would gladly discuss evolution with you, but when you, despite your ignorance about the subject, have made up your mind, then it is not worth the effort.
If you don't know the subejct, stay shut. It's your own advice, remember?
Originally posted by twhiteheadWe all know that. All of us, but himself and other creationists.
You either don't know what phenomena is under discussion, or don't know what 'observed' means. Either way, you are ignorant of the most basic principles of science.
The advice of robbie is that "if you don't know the subject, then shut and stay shut until you know." When will people listen to this fine advice?
For me, it doesn't matter if robbie refuse blood transfusion and die. That will be his busines, it's a part of his religion, I don't mind.
But it does matter when creationists lie about science and evolution when they in fact don't know anything about it.
"if you don't know the subject, then shut and stay shut until you know."
Originally posted by twhiteheadNo I think my answer is in the same spirit as your question: you asked me about people in Africa and in India. So, I would give blood to everybody anywhere and everywhere you care to mention if I had enough of it to donate. How can you call that a lie? Reality is different though. I donate blood here where I live. What is your moral analysis of the fact that I feel a moral obligation to donate blood so that others may be treated and cured of their illnesses?
No, it is not a hypothetical proposal. I don't even know where you get that idea.
But you don't even seem to understand what 'hypothetical' means. It means "if the circumstances in the proposal prevail, what will your actions be". Since the circumstances in question do prevail, and you do not actually plan to carry out the actions you listed, you are lying.
Originally posted by FabianFnasno that is not my advice at all Fabian, i have advised no one to stay silent , that is your
We all know that. All of us, but himself and other creationists.
The advice of robbie is that "if you don't know the subject, then shut and stay shut until you know." When will people listen to this fine advice?
For me, it doesn't matter if robbie refuse blood transfusion and die. That will be his busines, it's a part of his religion, I don't mind. ...[text shortened]... about it.
"if you don't know the subject, then shut and stay shut until you know."
amendment to my statement, i have merely encouraged learning and to refrain from
projecting ones ignorance on to others.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhen you learn about evolution and science, then we will happyly discuss the matters with you. Until then, just learn about it.
no that is not my advice at all Fabian, i have advised no one to stay silent , that is your
amendment to my statement, i have merely encouraged learning and to refrain from
projecting ones ignorance on to others.