1. Joined
    16 Feb '08
    Moves
    86307
    07 Feb '12 22:30
    This is not another 'academic' JW blood transfusion argument thread, this is real life. I honestly state that this is absolutely genuine - happening to me tonight.

    My wife is quite ill and has been taken into hospital suddenly today as she has been diagnosed today as being acutely anaemic, to the point of struggling to climb a flight of stairs, dizziness, and general extreme fatigue, this has been going on for a year or more. Her HB/iron level is just over 7. The doctor and hospital specialist strongly recommend a 2-4 unit transfusion overnight tonight.

    My serious question to JWs and anyone else with a view on blood transfusions is, what should I do?
  2. Joined
    24 Apr '05
    Moves
    3061
    07 Feb '12 22:36
    Originally posted by divegeester
    This is not another 'academic' JW blood transfusion argument thread, this is real life. I honestly state that this is absolutely genuine - happening to me tonight.

    My wife is quite ill and has been taken into hospital suddenly today as she has been diagnosed today as being acutely anaemic, to the point of struggling to climb a flight of stairs, dizzi ...[text shortened]... erious question to JWs and anyone else with a view on blood transfusions is, what should I do?
    Sorry to hear about your wife's condition. You should follow the recommendations of the doctor/specialist.
  3. Standard memberkaroly aczel
    the Devil himself
    Brisbane,QLD
    Joined
    11 Apr '09
    Moves
    91563
    07 Feb '12 22:45
    Originally posted by divegeester
    This is not another 'academic' JW blood transfusion argument thread, this is real life. I honestly state that this is absolutely genuine - happening to me tonight.

    My wife is quite ill and has been taken into hospital suddenly today as she has been diagnosed today as being acutely anaemic, to the point of struggling to climb a flight of stairs, dizzi ...[text shortened]... erious question to JWs and anyone else with a view on blood transfusions is, what should I do?
    I too am sorry hear about your wife's condition. i will light an incense stick for her, my way of sending something positive energy that way. (Whether you believe in that or not, it couldn't hurt, right?)

    As for the JW's I eagerly await their response. See how they can talk their way out of this one.
  4. Joined
    16 Feb '08
    Moves
    86307
    07 Feb '12 22:503 edits
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    I too am sorry hear about your wife's condition. i will light an incense stick for her, my way of sending something positive energy that way. (Whether you believe in that or not, it couldn't hurt, right?)

    As for the JW's I eagerly await their response. See how they can talk their way out of this one.
    I know I've called Galv and robbie out on certain issues - but this is REAL not an argument it's a test of the reality of a doctrine. If I was a JW would I be advised to advise her not to accept it?
    Kind of brings things into focus I can tell you!

    Good news btw is that her ECG is fine and the prognosis good. However her ability to do her job and live life beyond basal metabolic exertion is limited.

    EDIT: the doctor has said that the transfussion will transform her feeling of well being and ability to live a normal life. Further diet and iron suppliments will be required.
  5. Account suspended
    Joined
    26 Aug '07
    Moves
    38239
    07 Feb '12 22:54
    Originally posted by divegeester
    This is not another 'academic' JW blood transfusion argument thread, this is real life. I honestly state that this is absolutely genuine - happening to me tonight.

    My wife is quite ill and has been taken into hospital suddenly today as she has been diagnosed today as being acutely anaemic, to the point of struggling to climb a flight of stairs, dizzi ...[text shortened]... erious question to JWs and anyone else with a view on blood transfusions is, what should I do?
    You have let it get to this stage without seeking medical help?
  6. Joined
    16 Feb '08
    Moves
    86307
    07 Feb '12 22:57
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    You have let it get to this stage without seeking medical help?
    It's been gradual robbie and here breathing returns to normal within minutes of resting. The issue was hidden by the fact that she was diagnosed as T2 diabeties just over a year ago and we thought her struggling was the compromised sugar/haemoglin levels; however these have normalised in recent months but the other symptoms remained and indeed came on stronger. The doc say the 2 conditons are completely unrelated and she has just been unlucky.
  7. Account suspended
    Joined
    26 Aug '07
    Moves
    38239
    07 Feb '12 23:11
    Originally posted by divegeester
    It's been gradual robbie and here breathing returns to normal within minutes of resting. The issue was hidden by the fact that she was diagnosed as T2 diabeties just over a year ago and we thought her struggling was the compromised sugar/haemoglin levels; however these have normalised in recent months but the other symptoms remained and indeed came on stronger. The doc say the 2 conditons are completely unrelated and she has just been unlucky.
    You should ask about Erythropoietin.
  8. Joined
    31 May '06
    Moves
    1795
    07 Feb '12 23:351 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    This is not another 'academic' JW blood transfusion argument thread, this is real life. I honestly state that this is absolutely genuine - happening to me tonight.

    My wife is quite ill and has been taken into hospital suddenly today as she has been diagnosed today as being acutely anaemic, to the point of struggling to climb a flight of stairs, dizzi ...[text shortened]... erious question to JWs and anyone else with a view on blood transfusions is, what should I do?
    Follow the advice of medical experts and not the open to interpretation, twice translated, words of peasant goat herders from 2000+ years ago.

    And don't dick around asking non-medical experts on a chess forum for advice either.

    I wish your wife the very best and hope she recovers swiftly.

    EDIT: I am assuming from your posts that you are simply posing this as a dilemma for JW's
    having already gone with medical advice and I want to make it clear that the advice as stated
    is aimed at someone asking this for real.
    I appreciate that I didn't make this clear.
  9. Standard memberRajk999
    Enjoying
    On the Beach
    Joined
    04 Apr '04
    Moves
    170571
    07 Feb '12 23:36
    Originally posted by divegeester
    This is not another 'academic' JW blood transfusion argument thread, this is real life. I honestly state that this is absolutely genuine - happening to me tonight.

    My wife is quite ill and has been taken into hospital suddenly today as she has been diagnosed today as being acutely anaemic, to the point of struggling to climb a flight of stairs, dizzi ...[text shortened]... erious question to JWs and anyone else with a view on blood transfusions is, what should I do?
    Sorry to hear of your dilemma. I hope all will be well with your wife.
    My suggestion is go do what you need to do to fix the problem. The JWs already have stated their policy on blood transfusions. Im not understanding why would your personal dilemma impact on their beliefs.
  10. Joined
    16 Feb '08
    Moves
    86307
    08 Feb '12 00:271 edit
    My beloved is having a transfusion as we speak and I'm confident she will be much improved tomorrow. I didn't hesitate for one second and if god chooses to judge me over that then so be it.
    The 'dilemma' is for any poor JW person, a good JW person, who needs to make that decison. It just brought it home to me and I really feel for them.
  11. Joined
    31 May '06
    Moves
    1795
    08 Feb '12 00:34
    Originally posted by divegeester
    My beloved is having a transfusion as we speak and I'm confident she will be much improved tomorrow. I didn't hesitate for one second and if god chooses to judge me over that then so be it.
    The 'dilemma' is for any poor JW person, a good JW person, who needs to make that decison. It just brought it home to me and I really feel for them.
    Yes it's tragic what people do to themselves in the name of a being that if it existed would
    be considered to be the biggest genocidal psychopath in existence.

    However I tend towards being angry at peoples stupidity than feeling sorry for the consequences
    they face for it... However that depends on the circumstances.

    Being born into some religions is evidently worse than being born into others. (read born into as
    indoctrinated as a kid)
  12. Joined
    16 Feb '08
    Moves
    86307
    08 Feb '12 00:411 edit
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Yes it's tragic what people do to themselves in the name of a being that if it existed would
    be considered to be the biggest genocidal psychopath in existence.

    However I tend towards being angry at peoples stupidity than feeling sorry for the consequences
    they face for it... However that depends on the circumstances.

    Being born into some religi ...[text shortened]... ns is evidently worse than being born into others. (read born into as
    indoctrinated as a kid)
    I can't stand the JW "organisation" but I honestly feel for people trapped in these situations like (such as) I'm in today. "Mercy triumps over judgement" it's in the Bible loads of times, look it up yourselves - sorry no verses tonight.

    I'm a Christian and I grapple everyday (well most days) with the challenge of having sufficient faith to see me through it all. I wouldn't give it up though - it's not mine to give up.
  13. Joined
    31 May '06
    Moves
    1795
    08 Feb '12 00:471 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I'm a Christian and I grapple everyday (well most days) with the challenge of having sufficient faith to see me through it all. I wouldn't give it up though - it's not mine to give up.
    I really don't understand people who talk about struggling to believe because I can't see how if you didn't
    strongly believe that god existed, and in souls and such, why you would try to make yourself believe such things.

    However you probably have better things to do right now than try to explain, but you don't have to apologise
    to me for not quoting the bible at me 😉
  14. Joined
    16 Feb '08
    Moves
    86307
    08 Feb '12 00:541 edit
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    I really don't understand people who talk about struggling to believe because I can't see how if you didn't
    strongly believe that god existed, and in souls and such, why you would try to make yourself believe such things.

    However you probably have better things to do right now than try to explain, but you don't have to apologise
    to me for not quoting the bible at me 😉
    For me it's not about stuggling to believe, it's stuggling to live it up to what is [apparently] expected. Believing is easy by comparison. Difficult to explain; but Jesus said "my burden is light" so it's my contention that anything heavy is not from him. I will argue against people being burdened but we do it to ourselves.
  15. Joined
    02 Aug '06
    Moves
    12622
    08 Feb '12 01:01
    Originally posted by divegeester
    This is not another 'academic' JW blood transfusion argument thread, this is real life. I honestly state that this is absolutely genuine - happening to me tonight.

    My wife is quite ill and has been taken into hospital suddenly today as she has been diagnosed today as being acutely anaemic, to the point of struggling to climb a flight of stairs, dizzi ...[text shortened]... erious question to JWs and anyone else with a view on blood transfusions is, what should I do?
    It is a non-issue. Pray and take the best medical advice.
    I wouldn't give a second thought to JW's dogma on this.
Back to Top