Originally posted by robbie carrobieLazarus rose from the "dead" before Christ for it was Christ who raised Lazarus from death before Christ went to the cross. 😏
Lol, I dunno Swissgambit my friend, it seems to me, that we are distraught when someone close to us dies, infact nothing prepares us for it, we grieve and are literally floored. in our heart of hearts if we believe that they are someplace better why are we not happy for them? in some instances if the person was suffering severe pain or a chronic il ...[text shortened]... given as a guarantee, that this was possible, being the first to be raised from the dead.
Originally posted by SwissGambitWell then, off you go on your murderous quest of killing both the newly born and unborn. I wonder if you care what law enforcement will think of your quest?
But I don't care whether you or God are OK with it. I have a PASSION for saving souls that evidently exceeds both yours and his.
His hands are tied - he must follow his own rules. He's getting tons of souls for heaven whether he likes it or not!
Think of it as an enhanced plan of salvation. 100% success rate! How many evangelists can produce those kind of numbers? Billy Graham, eat your heart out.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieChrist also told the thief next to him that "today, you shall be with me in paradise". Is "today" a place to sleep? When one dies, he/she goes to be with Jesus or goes to be separated from Jesus for eternity; then, the judgement when God calls ALL dead to come for the final judjement, then the unsaved will depart from God forever, and the saved shall inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
unequivocally YES, all persons who have died (with the exception of those who sinned against the Holy Spirit), whether they were righteous or unrighteous, will be resurrected and given the opportunity to learn of God and to reach perfection, which was denied them, while in a sinful state or in a state of ignorance. This is not only an aspect of Gods ...[text shortened]... e is going to be [b]a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.
Acts 24:15[/b]
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat are you spewing here? ALL are unrighteous. Nobody was or is righteous, no one! We are saved simply by the blood of Christ. You are talking PC-religion, and you know not what you are saying. Desist from spewing false doctrine....
unequivocally YES, all persons who have died (with the exception of those who sinned against the Holy Spirit), whether they were righteous or unrighteous, will be resurrected and given the opportunity to learn of God and to reach perfection, which was denied them, while in a sinful state or in a state of ignorance. This is not only an aspect of Gods ...[text shortened]... e is going to be [b]a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.
Acts 24:15[/b]
Originally posted by dystoniacAs you read the gospels do you ever encounter any parables of Jesus that run counter to your theology?
Christ also told the thief next to him that "today, you shall be with me in paradise". Is "today" a place to sleep? When one dies, he/she goes to be with Jesus or goes to be separated from Jesus for eternity; then, the judgement when God calls ALL dead to come for the final judjement, then the unsaved will depart from God forever, and the saved shall inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
Originally posted by kirksey957I'm gonna hire you as my cyber-shrink...LOL
As you read the gospels do you ever encounter any parables of Jesus that run counter to your theology?
I do read some parables that I have trouble understanding at first, but I research it or ask someone more schooled in the NT than I am.
What Jesus said to the thief next to him is not a parable. It was a straight-up statement. Jesus was telling the repetant thief (sinner) that he would be with Jesus THAT DAY after they had both expired on the cross. Plain straight-up statement/promise...no parable.
Originally posted by whodeyThough they beat me and cuff me and imprison me, I shall endure in the cause of righteousness. And write lots of letters from jail. I will be like the 2nd coming of the Apostle Paul.
Well then, off you go on your murderous quest of killing both the newly born and unborn. I wonder if you care what law enforcement will think of your quest?
No, seriously, I'll just practice as an abortion doctor. I can save as many souls as I want legally that way.
Originally posted by dystoniacAnd does your theology ever change to match the new research, or does the research always end up confirming your theology?
I do read some parables that I have trouble understanding at first, but I research it or ask someone more schooled in the NT than I am.
What Jesus said to the thief next to him is not a parable. It was a straight-up statement. Jesus was telling the repetant thief (sinner) that he would be with Jesus THAT DAY after they had both expired on the cross. Plain straight-up statement/promise...no parable.
Not as straight forward as it sounds. 'Day' only holds meaning on earth. If for some reason their souls left their body and traveled west, would their 'day' have ended faster and thus the promise have to be fulfilled quicker? What would 'day' mean in heaven? If heaven is not in the physical universe then how is its time related to earths? If it is 12:00 UTC on earth is it the same time in heaven?
Originally posted by dystoniacummm i dont know if you noticed, but errr, these words are actually in the Bible, they may even be in your bible, should you care to dust it off and open it up😉
What are you spewing here? ALL are unrighteous. Nobody was or is righteous, no one! We are saved simply by the blood of Christ. You are talking PC-religion, and you know not what you are saying. Desist from spewing false doctrine....
Originally posted by robbie carrobie(As this really is off-topic I put it between brackets so noone will be offended. You'll find her at her site www.lykkeli.com (whatch the spelling). Google her, and enjoy here!)
Lol, actually Fabian, this is off topic, but i would like to know, have you heard Swedish pop godess, Lyyke Li? ( i promise I will hand thread back)
Originally posted by FabianFnassomeone as divine as her belongs in the spirituality forum! best regards Robbie.
(As this really is off-topic I put it between brackets so noone will be offended. You'll find her at her site www.lykkeli.com (whatch the spelling). Google her, and enjoy here!)
Originally posted by dystoniacActually, this verse is misinterpreted. Any student of the bible knows that punctuation was added by a translator. The verse you refer to is this...
I'm gonna hire you as my cyber-shrink...LOL
I do read some parables that I have trouble understanding at first, but I research it or ask someone more schooled in the NT than I am.
What Jesus said to the thief next to him is not a parable. It was a straight-up statement. Jesus was telling the repetant thief (sinner) that he would be with Jesus THAT DAY after they had both expired on the cross. Plain straight-up statement/promise...no parable.
Luke 23:43
43And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise."
(NAS)
Now, if you place the comma after Today, you have a whole different meaning. It should read thus...
Luke 23:43
43And He said to him, "Truly I say to you today, you shall be with Me in Paradise."
(NAS)
As in future tense. Furthermore, if he was to be with Jesus in Paradise Today, there is more conflict, since Jesus went in the ground 3 days and 3 nights. So He could not be in Paradise Today. I believe this comma was inserted incorrectly by someone with a biased or erroneous conviction. Punctuation is very helpful, but it must be carefully studied to see if it conflicts with the rest of the bible.
In II Timothy there is an interesting verse...
2 Tim 2:15
15Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, handling accurately the word of truth.
(NAS)
2 Tim 2:15
15Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
(KJV)