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Originally posted by Eladar
If they supported the Muslim invasion they were guilty of allowing the Muslims in.
So some of them, in your view, were "innocent"?

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
You take the whole Genesis thing literally, hey?
You brought up the clay, not me.


Originally posted by FMF
So some of them, in your view, were "innocent"?
Bounce your ball, i have answered this question.


Originally posted by apathist
I have met kids, and will fight and die for them. I have met fertilized clumps, and don't feel the samely motivated. Am I rotten then?
Are you evil because you think some people are people and other people are sub human?

I'd say yeas you are evil. You are no different than the Nazis who believed the Jews were nit people.

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Originally posted by Eladar
Bounce your ball, i have answered this question.
On the contrary, you said something about people not being innocent and then you said something different about people not being innocent which seemed to be something or other about thoughts/opinions in their head making them "guilty" of their own killing, or something like that [perhaps you were on the sauce a few hours ago? I think you have made a bit of a fool of yourself on the subject of "innocent victims", so you might want to clarify].

You implied that people in Germany who did not support their country's refugee policy were "innocent" victims "in a war" whereas earlier you quite clearly stated that you thought there were no "innocent" victims "in a war".

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
You brought up the clay, not me.
Only in response to you bringing up the chemical soup.

It's what we are 'now' as a species that matters, what gives life meaning and value.

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Only in response to you bringing up the chemical soup.

It's what we are 'now' as a species that matters, what gives life meaning and value.
I told you clay has no intrinsic value, it is the Breath of God that gives us intrinsic value. You have evaded my question about the chemical soup. If humans and animals are both a product of your chemical soup and nothing else, what gives humans intrinsic value that animals do not possess?

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Eladar, you say the US is in war with Teheran. What is the difference then between the US nuking Tehran and the terrorist attacks? They both kill innocent lives.


Originally posted by Eladar
Of course I do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child
Biologically, a child (plural: children) is a human being between the stages of birth and puberty.[1][2] The legal definition of child generally refers to a minor, otherwise known as a person younger than the age of majority.[1]

Are human sperm and egg cells children, Eladar?


Originally posted by Eladar
Are you evil because you think some people are people and other people are sub human?

I'd say yeas you are evil. You are no different than the Nazis who believed the Jews were nit people.
There are no sub-human people.


Originally posted by robbebop
Eladar, you say the US is in war with Teheran. What is the difference then between the US nuking Tehran and the terrorist attacks? They both kill innocent lives.
No, I said the US should be. Iran is at war with us.


Originally posted by apathist
There are no sub-human people.
Tell me why the living group of uniquely human cells which you once were is not human?

Genetically it is human. It is the earliest stage of human life.


Originally posted by FMF
On the contrary, you said something about people not being innocent and then you said something different about people not being innocent which seemed to be something or other about thoughts/opinions in their head making them "guilty" of their own killing, or something like that [perhaps you were on the sauce a few hours ago? I think you have made a bit of a foo ...[text shortened]... s earlier you quite clearly stated that you thought there were no "innocent" victims "in a war".
You don't know what it means to be innocent.

I've explained it but you can't understand.

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Originally posted by Eladar
You don't know what it means to be innocent.

I've explained it but you can't understand.
On the contrary, you are in a complete muddle with the way you have used the word "innocent". If you need to wait till you sober up before you have another pass at it, I am in no hurry. I'll wait.


Originally posted by FMF
On the contrary, you are in a complete muddle with the way you have used the word "innocent". If you need to wait till you sober up before you have another pass at it, I am in no hurry. I'll wait.
Thanks for your opinion.

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