1. Standard memberapathist
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    25 Jan '17 02:542 edits
    A deep and divisive subject.

    Should a woman have a right to choose? What are the boundaries, and why?

    What about the man? What rights for him?
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    25 Jan '17 03:05
    Originally posted by apathist
    A deep and divisive subject.

    Should a woman have a right to choose? What are the boundaries, and why?

    What about the man? What rights for him?
    What do you think?
  3. Standard memberapathist
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    25 Jan '17 03:15
    Originally posted by leunammi
    What do you think?
    aargh I specifically avoided that. I have strong opinions but don't want to set them in stone, was hoping to learn, to see other sides. So leunammi (nice name, what is the meaning for you?) what do you think?
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    25 Jan '17 06:08
    Originally posted by apathist
    A deep and divisive subject.

    Should a woman have a right to choose? What are the boundaries, and why?

    What about the man? What rights for him?
    Short thread.
  5. Standard memberFetchmyjunk
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    25 Jan '17 06:36
    Originally posted by apathist
    A deep and divisive subject.

    Should a woman have a right to choose? What are the boundaries, and why?

    What about the man? What rights for him?
    If you believe life is not precious and has no intrinsic value and is not God-given, we will be talking past each other. So maybe that framework should first be established.
  6. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    25 Jan '17 06:38
    Originally posted by apathist
    A deep and divisive subject.

    Should a woman have a right to choose? What are the boundaries, and why?

    What about the man? What rights for him?
    Nice.
    It's a womans choice first and foremost, right?
  7. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    25 Jan '17 06:40
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Short thread.
    that's cause twigthead, Peoper Knob, and others not being around.
    Like I said in my "spirituality forum" thread, people are dissillusionioned with this forum.
  8. SubscriberGhost of a Duke
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    25 Jan '17 09:15
    Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
    If you believe life is not precious and has no intrinsic value and is not God-given, we will be talking past each other. So maybe that framework should first be established.
    I do not believe life is God given, but still view life as precious and with intrinsic value. Your repeated assumption that life without God is meaningless is itself, meaningless.
  9. Standard memberFetchmyjunk
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    25 Jan '17 10:03
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    I do not believe life is God given, but still view life as precious and with intrinsic value. Your repeated assumption that life without God is meaningless is itself, meaningless.
    Would you say the ingredients of a chemical soup are also precious and have intrinsic value?
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    25 Jan '17 10:31
    Originally posted by apathist
    A deep and divisive subject.

    Should a woman have a right to choose? What are the boundaries, and why?

    What about the man? What rights for him?
    I think the complexity of the subject means that one cannot legislate so easily as it appears many people would like.
  11. SubscriberSuzianne
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    25 Jan '17 11:21
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    I do not believe life is God given, but still view life as precious and with intrinsic value. Your repeated assumption that life without God is meaningless is itself, meaningless.
    So life with God is "meaningless"?

    No, I must disagree.
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    25 Jan '17 12:571 edit
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    I think the complexity of the subject means that one cannot legislate so easily as it appears many people would like.
    I think the tragedy of abortion at its root is nothing more than homage to Moloch. I am not saying anybody is worshiping Moloch, we have been blinded for sure but abortion is a personal sacrifice no matter how you look at it.
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    25 Jan '17 13:10
    Originally posted by leunammi
    I think the tragedy of abortion at its root is nothing more than homage to Moloch. I am not saying anybody is worshiping Moloch, we have been blinded for sure but abortion is a personal sacrifice no matter how you look at it.
    You mean the sacrifice of a person.
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    25 Jan '17 13:19
    Originally posted by apathist
    A deep and divisive subject.

    Should a woman have a right to choose? What are the boundaries, and why?

    What about the man? What rights for him?
    Your belief on the subject boils down to belief in God.

    Do you believe man is simply a glorified animal to be treated as such or a being made in the image of God that is distinct from the animal kingdom with natural rights?

    That is the dividing line.
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    25 Jan '17 13:20
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    So life with God is "meaningless"?

    No, I must disagree.
    For an atheist, life only has meaning if we assign it meaning.

    Otherwise it is meaningless.
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