Originally posted by FMF So taking innocent lives with a weapon that clearly maximizes the taking of innocent lives, and intentionally so [in itself arguably the ultimate kind of "terrorist act"... as you said "...When the locals fear us enough..."] jives with your 'sanctity of unique distinct innocent human lives' thing?
Taking enemy lives in war is not taking innocent life. Even killing enemy women and children is not evil.
Originally posted by Eladar We should have nuked Tehran during the time of the hostage crisis. If we had, maybe we could have avoided this terrorist crap. Perhaps a few more islamic cities turned to glass would be reqired.
Is this it's ok to turn cities into glass argument also valid [as a rationale, not in terms of whether you like it] for other countries around the world who think nuclear attacks on the U.S. might bring an end to the harm they feel they suffer as a result of the actions of the U.S. and its proxies?
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke Life without God is not meaningless.
I made no comment about whether or not life 'with' God is meaningless. As an atheist, that's not for me to say, though assume a theist finds it meaningful..
Originally posted by Eladar Taking enemy lives in war is not taking innocent life. Even killing enemy women and children is not evil.
So do you believe that the taking of the lives of American non-combatant men, women and children in this "war" you are talking about is "not taking innocent life" and "is not evil"?
Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk Nope but 'clay' formed in the image of God filled with the life giving breath of God does. That's what separates us from other beasts.
'Breath' of God.
Sometimes even the blind stumble over the right answer eventually.
Originally posted by FMF So do you believe that the taking of the lives of American non-combatant men, women and children in this "war" you are talking about is "not taking innocent life" and "is not evil"?
War is war. If we do not defend our own it is our fault. If we do mot kill the ememy it is our fault.
FMF: So do you believe that the taking of the lives of American non-combatant men, women and children in this "war" you are talking about is "not taking innocent life" and "is not evil"?
Originally posted by Eladar War is war. If we do not defend our own it is our fault. If we do mot kill the ememy it is our fault.
"In war", is killing non-combatant Americans "not taking innocent life"? And "in war", is it "not evil" for America's enemies to kill non-combatant Americans?
You appear to have dodged my specific question.
"In war", according to you, is killing non-combatant Americans "not taking innocent life"? And "in war", is it "not evil" for America's enemies to kill non-combatant Americans?
Originally posted by FMF You appear to have dodged my specific question.
"In war", according to you, is killing non-combatant Americans "not taking innocent life"? And "in war", is it "not evil" for America's enemies to kill non-combatant Americans?
I answered your question. In war there are no non-combatants. Those are terms people like to throw around before and after wars.
Originally posted by Eladar I answered your question. In war there are no non-combatants. Those are terms people like to throw around before and after wars.
So American citizens who have been killed by terrorists were not "innocent lives" in your view?