Originally posted by @secondson Religion > thrēskeia, occurs 4 times in 4 verses in the New Testament of the KJV. The word means ceremonial observance.
In the broader sense it has little to do with what we see as "religion" in the real world, which is factionalized in the extreme.
A better understanding of what is "religion" can be had by dividing the concept in two.
1. Substit ...[text shortened]... by God.
Cain's was a sacrifice of the work of his own hands unacceptable by God. "Religion".
You have a couple bible references to support your doctrine of what happened to Cain and Abel and why?
Failing that please direct me to your church's website so that I can have a read of their doctrine and conclusions
Originally posted by @divegeester Perhaps your version of Jesus will think the time you spend in here pontificating will be "acceptable" to him, instead of being in the streets warning people about him torturing them for eternity.
Pontificating?
Is that what you call it?
Are you so throughly indoctrinated by what you think the scriptures teach that you fail to learn the truth about the substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ?
Substitutionary atonement is a central tenet of the Christian faith as taught throughout the scriptures.
And you appear to know nothing about it.
Well, here's your "street warning". Go learn, or miss out on the real truth about Jesus' death on the cross. The cross of Christ is the center of the whole biblical narrative. Substitutionary atonement.
Are you so throughly indoctrinated by what you think the scriptures teach that you fail to learn the truth about the substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ?
Substitutionary atonement is a central tenet of the Christian faith as taught throughout the scriptures.
And you appear to know nothing about i ...[text shortened]... s. The cross of Christ is the center of the whole biblical narrative. Substitutionary atonement.
Substitutionary atonement is a central tenet of the doctrine of Christian churches. It was never taught by Jesus Christ and Paul mentioned it in passing. It is therefore not a central tenet of anything significant neither would it impact on someones eternal life.
I have asked you to provide references already for many of your stated 'critical' doctrines and you have failed to provide any so I would not bother to ask. Even the disciples were unaware of the death and resurrection of Christ and even after Christ died they were surprised that he was raised in 3 days.
Clearly then your core beliefs have nothing to do with Jesus Christ, and the Apostles. What your church calls core is simply a man made list of doctrines which in no way has any scriptural support.
Originally posted by @rajk999 Substitutionary atonement is a central tenet of the doctrine of Christian churches. It was never taught by Jesus Christ and Paul mentioned it in passing. It is therefore not a central tenet of anything significant neither would it impact on someones eternal life.
I have asked you to provide references already for many of your stated 'critical' doctrines ...[text shortened]... ch calls core is simply a man made list of doctrines which in no way has any scriptural support.
There are no references suitable for heretics, reprobates and apostates.
I've gone down that road with you before, and you closed your eyes and stopped your ears.
Originally posted by @secondson There are no references suitable for heretics, reprobates and apostates.
I've gone down that road with you before, and you closed your eyes and stopped your ears.
You're on your own Nabal.
You have nothing. The doctrine of the churches is miles away from the teachings of Christ ... many miles away. Your name calling shows what an infantile personality you are.
Yes we went down that road with other doctrines which you similarly were at a loss to support from the bible
Originally posted by @rajk999 You have nothing. The doctrine of the churches is miles away from the teachings of Christ ... many miles away. Your name calling shows what an infantile personality you are.
Yes we went down that road with other doctrines which you similarly were at a loss to support from the bible
I provided the references which you refused to acknowledge.
You make yourself look like an idiot with every word you spew on these boards. You expose yourself as a fool to everyone who is biblically literate. You're a laughingstock.
Originally posted by @divegeester This is NOT about salvation per-se.
Acceptable religion to God for Christians is:
James 1:27 New International Version (NIV)
[b]Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
I think this could be simply extrapolate ...[text shortened]... ptable good works before God but without any proselytising. Just make a point of helping people.[/b]
Do you think Christ was sent to the cross for preaching helping the poor?
Originally posted by @secondson I provided the references which you refused to acknowledge.
You make yourself look like an idiot with every word you spew on these boards. You expose yourself as a fool to everyone who is biblically literate. You're a laughingstock.
The laughingstock is the man who believes in a whole pile of central tenets of Christianity, none of which are taught by Christ. NOT ONE
Your church doctrine is fabricated manmade nonsense.
Are you so throughly indoctrinated by what you think the scriptures teach that you fail to learn the truth about the substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ?
Substitutionary atonement is a central tenet of the Christian faith as taught throughout the scriptures.
And you appear to know nothing about i ...[text shortened]... s. The cross of Christ is the center of the whole biblical narrative. Substitutionary atonement.
What has my criticism of sonship’s pontifications in this forum have to do with my understanding of the gospel?
Originally posted by @rajk999 The laughingstock is the man who believes in a whole pile of central tenets of Christianity, none of which are taught by Christ. NOT ONE
Your church doctrine is fabricated manmade nonsense.
I have proven you wrong over and over.
The only thing you have proven is that you're a liar, and a cad.
Originally posted by @secondson The only thing you have proven is that you're a liar, and a cad.
The liar is the man who cannot support his critical doctrines from the teachings of Jesus Christ.
You are a false follower of Christ heading for damnation.