Affirmative Action

Originally posted by @eladar
Have you taught in a public school with a sizable low income student body?

Yes. In several different countries on three continents.

Originally posted by @eladar
Have you taught in a public school with a sizable low income student body?

Were your employers aware of your undisguised and strident racist views when you were teaching low income students in their school?

Originally posted by @fmf
Yes. In several different countries on three continents.

Where all kids went to school?

What countries are those? Oh and what subjects?

Originally posted by @eladar
Where all kids went to school?

What countries are those?

Yes.

Inner London in the UK was one of them. Elsewhere too, but the details are none of your business. I spent years as a teacher trainer too and worked with teachers who faced the most challenging conditions, including abject poverty and almost non-existent resources..

Originally posted by @eladar
But I think you changed the question I asked. I asked if it discrimination if degree rates match IQ rates.

You asked about this and I answered.

Originally posted by @fmf
How many people in your country with IQ 90 are applying to do a BSc in Mathematics? How many are being accepted? How many are graduating?

BUMP

Originally posted by @fmf
Yes.

Inner London in the UK was one of them. Elsewhere too, but the details are none of your business. I spent years as a teacher trainer too and worked with teachers who faced the most challenging conditions, including abject poverty and almost non-existent resources..

The subject you taught skews your point of view. If you taught reading, english, math or science that is one thing. Teaching art, music or pe is another.

Originally posted by @fmf
BUMP

I would hazard the guess of zero, if the school isn't simply handing out degrees.

FMF: How many people in your country with IQ 90 are applying to do a BSc in Mathematics? How many are being accepted? How many are graduating?

Originally posted by @eladar
I would hazard the guess of zero, if the school isn't simply handing out degrees.

So it's not actually a problem then, right? It's just some IQ-related straw man that you are hypothetically worried about, yes?

Originally posted by @fmf
So it's not actually a problem then, right? It's just some IQ-related straw man that you are hypothetically worried about, yes?

The problem is that too many degrees are watered down.

Originally posted by @eladar
The problem is that too many degrees are watered down.

If it's true, then employers should bear it in mind. However, if what you call a "watered down degree" brings some benefit to the person holding it, then that's a good thing.

Originally posted by @fmf
If it's true, then employers should bear it in mind. However, if what you call a "watered down degree" brings some benefit to the person holding it, then that's a good thing.

This is what employers are doing for general employment now. People have to take an employer's test.

What field did you teach?

Originally posted by @eladar
This is what employers are doing for general employment now. People have to take an employer's test.

Good idea. Let's hope such tests are not all hung up on IQ and similar nonsense.

Originally posted by @eladar
What field did you teach?

I've moved into something different now, and done some other stuff as an international consultant, and all that - along with the details of what I did in the past - is none of your business.

Originally posted by @eladar
The subject you taught skews your point of view. If you taught reading, english, math or science that is one thing. Teaching art, music or pe is another.

If your pitch is that I have to be a white supremacist and Christian extremist maths teacher ~ like you, for instance ~ in order to understand 'education', it's not going to work on me. I am sorry if you had an unhappy or unsuccessful time as a teacher. It's not a vocation suited to everyone.