-Removed-Claiming to be God now? You really do need to cut down on the alcohol.
I have made a defense of my claim, you are more than welcome to disagree with it.
You have given no explanation for this particular claim - thus you cannot claim to have made a defence. You have just restated it multiple times in the hope that that will make it true. Every time I have tried to ask for clarification you have dodged (as you are still doing).
One of my defenses of my claim is that parenting is not altruism it is fundamentally self-interest.
In what way is it self interest? The only way that I can see that parenting is inherently self interest is in the context that we typically desire to parent. So you essentially define 'self interest' as 'doing what you wish to do'.
Essentially, to be altruistic in your view, you must help others without wanting to help them.
I presume you do not allow for accidentally helping others.
That does lead to a non-existent altruism, but who cares? That is not what most people mean when they talk of altruism. That is what people mean when they talk of madness (doing things contrary to your conscious control).
-Removed-Yes. 🙂 Childish words deserve a childish response.
Dear me, resorting to the old "are you drunk" deflection also.
Not a deflection. Pay attention.
Are you going to admit you were wrong in claiming that you had not accused me of trolling, when clearly on page 8 had?
I admit I could have been clearer and stated that I did not accuse you of trolling in the post you responded to and where you accused me of accusing you of trolling for the purposes of dodging.
Is Wiki your choice of source or not?
I think I was quite clear on that. What did you not understand?
You seem to like leaning on it when it fits your world view but when it doesn't you just say you disagree.
Not 'leaning on'. Merely quoting as a reasonable definition as you asked me to. That you find this unreasonable is strange.
This "self-interested parenting" thing seems to have got you upset.
Nah, not upset, I am just bored with people like you and FMJ who don't seem to want to discuss what could be very interesting topics.
Do you feel somehow inadequate as a father, or perhaps you have not lived up to even your own expectations?
Ha ha ha ha. Desperate I see.
So, are you interested in discussing the actual topic, or is chucking insults around all you are interested in these days?
-Removed-Apparently not given that you keep telling me how I have fallen off the pedestal you put me on.
I think that in this thread, you decided what my number was from the very beginning and did your very best to try and annoy me (to no avail) in order that you could crow about getting my number.
So, are you willing to discuss whether or not parenthood is inherently selfish? I promise I won't call you a dick.
