An analogy of Faith

Originally posted by Starrman
So they turned a house into a printing press, big deal. This shows absolutely nothing.

There is a mosque in Cordoba (in the south of Spain) which the Catholics have built a Cathedral in the middle of, what does this speak volumes about?

He was the one that said the Bible would be destroyed within a period of time. Yet his very own house was turned into a Bible printing press. This speaks voumes about man not being able to chain the Word of God. Besides, Star, tell me why has no man been able to destroy the Bible if it is only an ordinary book? It has been the bestseller since it was printed for the first time. It is no ordinary book. Thousands have attempted to destroy it but they have all failed. That speaks volumes!

Originally posted by dj2becker
He was the one that said the Bible would be destroyed within a period of time. Yet his very own house was turned into a Bible printing press. This speaks voumes about man not being able to chain the Word of God. Besides, Star, tell me why has no man been able to destroy the Bible if it is only an ordinary book? It has been the bestseller since it was print ...[text shortened]... nary book. Thousands have attempted to destroy it but they have all failed. That speaks volumes!

What are you on about? So he was wrong, that's the way people are sometimes and I'm pretty sure he was professing a hope rather than being imbued with the gift of prophecy. I don't think the bible should be destroyed, just as I would try to stop any book being destroyed. Voltaire's hope was that religion would become unnecessary or be removed, something I too hope for. Your continual reference to the speaking of volumes is somewhat excited.

Originally posted by Starrman
What are you on about? So he was wrong, that's the way people are sometimes and I'm pretty sure he was professing a hope rather than being imbued with the gift of prophecy. I don't think the bible should be destroyed, just as I would try to stop any book being destroyed. Voltaire's hope was that religion would become unnecessary or be removed, something I too hope for. Your continual reference to the speaking of volumes is somewhat excited.

A hope in what? Destroying God's word? Well, I also hope that religion is removed. Religion is totally unnecessary. It is only a living relationship with Jesus Christ that is of any use.

Originally posted by dj2becker
A hope in what? Destroying God's word? Well, I also hope that religion is removed. Religion is totally unnecessary. It is only a living relationship with Jesus Christ that is of any use.

So you don't consider your particular brand of Christianity a religion? What would you classify it as?

I would see both yours and that of such religious institutions as the Catholic church removed.

Originally posted by dj2becker
He was the one that said the Bible would be destroyed within a period of time. Yet his very own house was turned into a Bible printing press. This speaks voumes about man not being able to chain the Word of God. Besides, Star, tell me why has no man been able to destroy the Bible if it is only an ordinary book? It has been the bestseller since it was print ...[text shortened]... nary book. Thousands have attempted to destroy it but they have all failed. That speaks volumes!

All of these things are evidence of Muffy, dj2. Why are you worshipping the creation (God) when you should worship the creator (Muffy)?

Originally posted by Starrman
So you don't consider your particular brand of Christianity a religion? What would you classify it as?

I would see both yours and that of such religious institutions as the Catholic church removed.

What I am saying is that religion in itself is of no use. I mean just going to church and reading the Bible. I mean more than just being 'religious' is neccessary. Unfortunately that is where many Christians go wrong. If you have a living relationship with Jesus Christ it is more than just 'religion'. That is probably why you don't fancy religion, because in many cases it is only a game.

Originally posted by dj2becker
What I am saying is that religion in itself is of no use. I mean just going to church and reading the Bible. I mean more than just being 'religious' is neccessary. Unfortunately that is where many Christians go wrong. If you have a livi ...[text shortened]... ou don't fancy religion, because in many cases it is only a game.

Well I can at least respect your view on this. However my 'not fancying' religion is based on other things.

Originally posted by Starrman
Well I can at least respect your view on this. However my 'not fancying' religion is not based on other things.

Respect for someone's views earns a rec.

Originally posted by Starrman
Well I can at least respect your view on this. However my 'not fancying' religion is based on other things.

I thank you for your kind words. I can also respect the fact that you don't fancy religion. In fact the way I see it, 'religion' is used by the Devil to deseave many people. Sadly there are many people that call themselves Christians but in fact they are only worshiping the 'false God' of religion. In fact they are sadly in the majority. It is no wonder that there are many people that put off by religion because of them. I am not saying that this is the case with you. It would be interesting to hear what your 'not fancying' religion is based on.

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
I do have a problem with your 'meaning of faith'.

You claim to [b]establish a fact by faith, but by definition, faith is believing in something that cannot be proven.[/b]

Hebrews 11:1 - Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Originally posted by dj2becker
Hebrews 11:1 - Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Exactly. Praise be to Muffy.

Originally posted by telerion
Exactly. Praise be to Muffy.

Who or what is Muffy?

Originally posted by lucifershammer
Who or what is Muffy?

Check out page 4. dj2's question-begging and Col's insistence that the natural world is evidence of the supernatural led me to my understanding of Muffy.

Originally posted by Coletti
What evidence did I give that was false? What part was not real? You can only assert that my evidence is false if you first assert my evidence is false. The evidence is valid. If you believe that reality is only what you can perceive, then that is by faith alone. The very existence of the natural world is evidence of the spiritual - you can only deny this with absude reasoning. That is a poor basis for your faith.

Sorry - but how is the mere existence of the natural world evidence for the existence of a spiritual world?

Originally posted by telerion
Exactly. Praise be to Muffy.

What did Muffy do for you to earn your praise?