Originally posted by GSWILLIs that the best you can do? You're ashamed about posting something stupid and are now trying hard to shift the focus. I am afraid such tactics only make you look worse, not better.
Ashamed to stand for something ?
Only feel comfortable yelping at what others here believe ?
I wasn't yelping at what others believe, (in this thread). I was yelping at your surprising support for the dishonest practice of quote mining and now I am yelping at your despicable attempts at trying to wriggle out of it.
Is it really so hard to admit you were wrong, or that you said something stupid?
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Originally posted by twhiteheadYour tactics are predictable. Your best posts are always somehow in the past and on the previous page. "Go back and apologize. Go back and say you're wrong."
Is that the best you can do? You're ashamed about posting something stupid and are now trying hard to shift the focus. I am afraid such tactics only make you look worse, not better.
I wasn't yelping at what others believe, (in this thread). I was yelping at your surprising support for the dishonest practice of quote mining and now I am yelping at your de ...[text shortened]... e out of it.
Is it really so hard to admit you were wrong, or that you said something stupid?
Whatever you want to return to and scrutinize this time, as in a number of previous times, is usually a minor matter. That the best YOU can do.
I am spending my limited time here today researching who Freeman Dyson is. That you are "struggling" over some little thing I said, that you want to make a federal case about, as is your style, is not my priority.
Originally posted by GSWILLi have presented to you 6 solid distortions/outright lies in a 3 minute video segment. your response to this is to join hinds and defend his distortions and even add distortions yourself by siding with hinds in suggesting dyson might be agnostic while at the same time admitting you know nothing about dyson and refusing to research the dyson on the internet (it will take about 30 seconds to discover that dyson is a christian and has written books and articles on the subject).
This is jaywill writing.in my 3 minute analysis, i have sufficiently shown 6 lies in a 3 minute period. that is sufficient to rest my argument. i will not suffer the entire videos again in order to point out the rest of the inconsistencies which are no longer necessary for my argument.
I have not finished my review. I started and w ...[text shortened]... te to cling to your bigotry that no theist is to be trusted.
and you want more examples? that's deplorable intellectual dishonesty on your part. i told you earlier, if you can't bring yourself to accept that this hinds is a bold faced liar on the solid evidence that i presented, no amount of other evidence i dig up will convince you. in short, there is no reasoning with you and for my part, this discussion is over. i'll let the evidence speak for itself.
Originally posted by GSWILLWe all do it now because it works!
I'm a Liberal Democrat in some areas. And I have met in my life too many political right wingers who were as bigoted and insulting as could be, to make me think Liberal Democrats have any kind of copyright on dishonestly attacking people's characters, by a long shot.
Originally posted by twhiteheadThere is nothing unethical about using a quote from someone to show where they are being inconsistent or even wrong. What you are referring to is quoting out of context, which atheist do all the time with the Holy Bible. So if one uses a quote in a way that suggests that the author meant something different than what he was trying to state, then that would be "quote mining", right?
I wouldn't use it that way and don't think it makes much sense to do so. However, it seems to me that it is pretty obvious that the context in which it originally appears in this thread clearly refers to the Wikipedia meaning.
[b]In other words if you made a careful search of quotations which supported which shed light on something you were trying to a ...[text shortened]... n which I used it is remarkably similar to the dishonest practice of "quote mining".
Originally posted by GSWILLAnd yours are just as predictable. You'll do anything to avoid admitting an error.
Your tactics are predictable.
I am spending my limited time here today researching who Freeman Dyson is. That you are "struggling" over some little thing I said, that you want to make a federal case about, as is your style, is not my priority.
Yet you have spent a remarkable amount of time trying very hard to avoid admitting you were wrong. If you simply didn't care, or didn't have the time as you are now trying to pass it off as, then you would have said so in the first place, or simply ignored me. But instead you have tried every diversionary tactic you can think of. The funny thing is, that instead of clearing your good name, you have simply made yourself look totally dishonest.
Originally posted by twhiteheadNobody likes admitting there own errors. You are no exception.
And yours are just as predictable. You'll do anything to avoid admitting an error.
[b]I am spending my limited time here today researching who Freeman Dyson is. That you are "struggling" over some little thing I said, that you want to make a federal case about, as is your style, is not my priority.
Yet you have spent a remarkable amount of time tr ...[text shortened]... t instead of clearing your good name, you have simply made yourself look totally dishonest.[/b]
Originally posted by RJHindsYou mean like how your republicans like to go after money and screw the little people. Lets make government smaller so the big companies can resume rough riding over its employees, maybe they will go back to 12 hour days, so what, not my concern, I got paid plenty for this senate gig.
I learned it from you Democrats. Are you trying to tell me you had no idea how your politicians operate?
Originally posted by RJHindsI don't always like it, but I usually don't have a problem doing so. I certainly don't go to the great lengths that some theists seem to do just to avoid admitting a tiny error. In fact I cant think of a single atheist that behaves that way, yet at least half the theists on this site are like that. There are of course some very decent theists who are quite happy to admit when they are wrong.
Nobody likes admitting there own errors. You are no exception.
Originally posted by sonhouseWell, there always seem to be some bad apples in every barrel.
You mean like how your republicans like to go after money and screw the little people. Lets make government smaller so the big companies can resume rough riding over its employees, maybe they will go back to 12 hour days, so what, not my concern, I got paid plenty for this senate gig.
http://nbarnett2.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/the-importance-of-good-packing/
Originally posted by twhiteheadAs a Christian, I am quite happy to admit when I find out I am wrong for then I know I have learned a new thing.
I don't always like it, but I usually don't have a problem doing so. I certainly don't go to the great lengths that some theists seem to do just to avoid admitting a tiny error. In fact I cant think of a single atheist that behaves that way, yet at least half the theists on this site are like that. There are of course some very decent theists who are quite happy to admit when they are wrong.
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Originally posted by RJHindsNo, the entire republican party consists of dudes like that, don't give a rats ass for the common folk, only how well they can get business going no matter how much trouble those companies cause for the common folk.
Well, there always seem to be some bad apples in every barrel.
http://nbarnett2.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/the-importance-of-good-packing/
I guess you put your own self in the category of one of the 1% in your own mind so don't give a crap how badly big companies step on their employees.
Republicans agenda is to reduce government to caretaker status, which I call abrogation of responsibility, responsibility to their actual constituents not bowing down and worshipping big business, having been bought out by big business for decades.
For instance, you probably thing GW bush was the best president in history.
Well on the campaign trail he was at a convention of oil men and he said, and I quote "There are the haves and the have more's. YOU ARE MY BASE!"
That pretty much sums up the platform and agenda of the republican party.
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Originally posted by sonhousehttp://freethoughtblogs.com/aronra/2012/06/28/excerpts-from-the-texas-gop-platform/
No, the entire republican party consists of dudes like that, don't give a rats ass for the common folk, only how well they can get business going no matter how much trouble those companies cause for the common folk.
I guess you put your own self in the category of one of the 1% in your own mind so don't give a crap how badly big companies step on their ...[text shortened]... ARE MY BASE!"
That pretty much sums up the platform and agenda of the republican party.