Originally posted by divegeester
Bump for roigam. Again.
Originally posted by divegeester
[b]Three points for you to consider[b] and respond to please:
Michael the archangel is only mentioned specifically by name 5 times in the Bible and never in association with being Jesus Christ.
1 Thes 4:16 also says that the LORD will return with the "trump of God". I ...[text shortened]... God has never said these things to any angel.
What do you think of my three points?[/b][/b][/b]
As far as 1 Thess. I don't have a concise ref. but it would seem that Jesus (Michael the archangel in his prehuman existence) would himself blow God's trumpet to start the war of the great day of God Almighty, especially since Jesus is leading God's army of angels to that war.
Also for Hebrews, this is a great privilege for Michael to be called God's Son.
The verse doesn't say God "never" said that to an angel. It only asks,"To which of the angels has He ever said..."
Side question, how can God be begotten or born? Jesus(Michael) obviously was.
(John 14:6) Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Our faith in Jesus as God's "1st born son" is the only way to approach the Father. If we only go as far as Jesus, we have not gone far enough.
(Matthew 7:21-23) “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’
You seem to be a thoughtful person so these are just some points to consider.