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    12 Jan '15 00:081 edit
    I know there is another thread about angels. I have not kept up with it. Have there been any comments on (Revelation 7:1) After this I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding tight the four winds of the earth, so that no wind could blow on the earth or on the sea or on any tree.
    In particular when does this occur and what will result when they let the four winds blow?
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    12 Jan '15 01:38
    Originally posted by roigam
    In particular when does this occur and what will result when they let the four winds blow?
    In particular where does this occur?
    Where are the corners?
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    It's interesting to note that there are no female angels. All angels in the bible are refered to as "he".
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    12 Jan '15 09:57
    Originally posted by vivify
    It's interesting to note that there are no female angels. All angels in the bible are refered to as "he".
    Angels are androgynous. I can't answer for the Bible, but there are no he or she angels.
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    12 Jan '15 13:07
    Originally posted by vivify
    It's interesting to note that there are no female angels. All angels in the bible are refered to as "he".
    Roigam is a Jehovah's Witness so he will be able to tell you that there is indeed at least one "male" angel - Jesus Christ, who the JW's claim is also the Archangel Michael.
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    12 Jan '15 13:08
    Originally posted by asromacalcio
    Angels are androgynous. I can't answer for the Bible, but there are no he or she angels.
    Please see my post above re JW view on this point.
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    12 Jan '15 13:48
    Originally posted by vivify
    It's interesting to note that there are no female angels. All angels in the bible are refered to as "he".
    Who or what are these?

    Zechariah 5:9 New International Version (NIV)

    9 Then I looked up—and there before me were two women, with the wind in their wings! They had wings like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and earth.
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    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Who or what are these?

    Zechariah 5:9 New International Version (NIV)

    9 Then I looked up—and there before me were two women, with the wind in their wings! They had wings like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and earth.
    Just metaphoric visions. Earlier in that same chapter, an angel asked "what do you see", and the response was "a flying scroll". The angel said that this represented a curse. In that same conversation with the angel, there was also a basket that represented "iniquity". So in answer to your question, the "women" are metaphors.

    I love schooling Christians on their own book.
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    12 Jan '15 19:09
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Roigam is a Jehovah's Witness so he will be able to tell you that there is indeed at least one "male" angel - Jesus Christ, who the JW's claim is also the Archangel Michael.
    As an angel Jesus has no gender. He was a male on earth in order to be the last Adam. He was a perfect male to balance perfectly the perfect male Adam to buy back what Adam lost.
    btw Is there some reason you are fixated on JW s?
    Did a JW step on your corn?
    I would venture to say many others have stepped on your corn in your lifetime. Why focus on JW s?
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    12 Jan '15 20:30
    Originally posted by vivify
    Just metaphoric visions. Earlier in that same chapter, an angel asked "what do you see", and the response was "a flying scroll". The angel said that this represented a curse. In that same conversation with the angel, there was also a basket that represented "iniquity". So in answer to your question, the "women" are metaphors.

    I love schooling Christians on their own book.
    How do you know that is true?
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    12 Jan '15 21:02
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    How do you know that is true?
    I looked up the chapter you posted and read it.
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    13 Jan '15 02:241 edit
    So I guess no one has any thoughts on Re 7:1. o.k. thanx anyways.
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    13 Jan '15 02:44
    Originally posted by roigam
    Did a JW step on your corn? I would venture to say many others have stepped on your corn in your lifetime. Why focus on JW s?
    Which forum should JW theology be discussed on in your view?

    Do you believe that Archangel Michael and Jesus are one in the same?
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    13 Jan '15 04:07
    Originally posted by vivify
    I looked up the chapter you posted and read it.
    Just by looking you know? You and the Pope I guess are the two that
    all the world should go to for what scripture means?
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    13 Jan '15 04:221 edit
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Just by looking you know? You and the Pope I guess are the two that
    all the world should go to for what scripture means?
    Ever heard of context? See, what you did was post a verse out of context in order to try to prove me wrong. However, the surrounding context makes that verse clear. That's all it takes to interpret any text: context.
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