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Atheists?
Agnostics?
Muslims?
Jews?
Hindus?
Buddhists?
Agnostics?
Muslims?
Jews?
Hindus?
Buddhists?
Originally posted by @wolfe63My penny's worth, for what it's worth: nobody is destined for "Hell". Evidence that people are: nil.
Atheists?
Agnostics?
Muslims?
Jews?
Hindus?
Buddhists?
Originally posted by @wolfe63The Bible lists a few Jews who went to heaven in the OT.
Atheists?
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Originally posted by @fmfThere is this forum
My penny's worth, for what it's worth: nobody is destined for "Hell". Evidence that people are: nil.
Originally posted by @fmfGive me back my penny !
My penny's worth, for what it's worth: nobody is destined for "Hell". Evidence that people are: nil.
Originally posted by @wolfe63Where then would this kind priest go?
James 2:14-18
"14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good[a] is that? 17 So also faith ...[text shortened]... hristian theology.
Behavior is the key. Not just words of "faith" which are easily corrupted.
Originally posted by @rajk999Depending upon one's system of belief: To the happier place.
Where then would this kind priest go?
Originally posted by @wolfe63First you said that behaviour is the key . .. Now it depents on your system of belief?
Depending upon one's system of belief: To the happier place.
Originally posted by @wolfe63"I believe that it can be argued that a kind, generous and good Shinto-Priest in Japan will not be entering "hell" simply because they were born outside of the knowledge of Christian theology."
James 2:14-18
"14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good[a] is that? 17 So also faith ...[text shortened]... hristian theology.
Behavior is the key. Not just words of "faith" which are easily corrupted.
Originally posted by @whodeyChristianity didn’t exist in the Old Testament so one obviously could not believe in Jesus Christ and His Resurrection for eternal life.
The Bible lists a few Jews who went to heaven in the OT.
So who do you think deserves hell or does no one?
Originally posted by @js357Oh...so sorry...did I ding myself?
"I believe that it can be argued that a kind, generous and good Shinto-Priest in Japan will not be entering "hell" simply because they were born outside of the knowledge of Christian theology."
Making the question easier to answer seems to be a common approach.
What if he's not "born outside of the knowledge of Christian theology; he knows all about it, maybe even was a Christian, just doesn't believe it when he dies?
Originally posted by @wolfe63“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
James 2:14-18
"14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good[a] is that? 17 So also faith ...[text shortened]... hristian theology.
Behavior is the key. Not just words of "faith" which are easily corrupted.
Originally posted by @wolfe63So my answer is, I lack a belief at present, as to whether all humans meet the same or differing ends. I do believe that our finite nature does not merit consideration for the imposition of infinite consequences such as happy hunting grounds in which we are either hunter or hunted, one way or the other. I do believe we will all cease to exist as we currentlly are, that is, as individuals with our own personalities, since all detectable individual attributes appear to be temporary and contingent on external circumstances, even within one’s current lifetime.
Oh...so sorry...did I ding myself?
"Happier place" was metaphorically utilized to accommodate an individual reader's particular belief system. So...it's applicable to whatever it's called in your mythos: "Heaven"; "Paradise"; "Elysium"; "The Happy Hunting Grounds"; "The Hereafter" etc...
So...my original question remains.
But, I see that query is the avoidance method of choice here.