Are the nations shaking?

Haggai 2: 6-7
For thus said the LORD of hosts; yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land; 7 and I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, said the LORD of hosts.

Is this scripture referring to what we are seeing in terms of catastrophic geological and weather events, but more specifically in Libya, Egypt, Bahrain and wider in the economic PIGs?

Originally posted by divegeester
Haggai 2: 6-7
For thus said the LORD of hosts; yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land; 7 [b] and I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, said the LORD of hosts.

Is this scripture referring to what we are seeing in ...[text shortened]... d weather events, but more specifically in Libya, Egypt, Bahrain and wider in the economic PIGs?[/b]

Yes

Originally posted by divegeester
Haggai 2: 6-7
For thus said the LORD of hosts; yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land; 7 [b] and I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, said the LORD of hosts.

Is this scripture referring to what we are seeing in ...[text shortened]... d weather events, but more specifically in Libya, Egypt, Bahrain and wider in the economic PIGs?[/b]

Haggai 2:6,7 & 21,22 (New International Version, ©2010)

6 “This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘In a little while I will once more shake the heavens and the earth, the sea and the dry land. 7 I will shake all nations, and what is desired by all nations will come, and I will fill this house with glory,’ says the LORD Almighty.
21 “Tell Zerubbabel governor of Judah that I am going to shake the heavens and the earth. 22 I will overturn royal thrones and shatter the power of the foreign kingdoms. I will overthrow chariots and their drivers; horses and their riders will fall, each by the sword of his brother.

It would seem the things you mentioned would be included in that scripture but it also mentions the heavens being shaken. This would refer to the removal of Satan from the heavenly realm and confined to the earth.
Also verse 7 mentions "what is desired by all nations will come and I will fill this house with glory."
Any thoughts on this?

Originally posted by divegeester
Is this scripture referring to what we are seeing in terms of catastrophic geological and weather events..

And which ones would those be? Seems you do not know your history - or just get over excited by current events. There has not been any significant increase in catastrophic weather events as far as I know.

And as for 'shaking nations' you can hardly claim that current events are as shaky as World Wars I or II.

Swords and chariots haven't been used for a long, long time..

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Swords and chariots haven't been used for a long, long time..

Those were example of war instruments. Tanks and fighter jets were obviously not used back then.

In Haggai's prophecy " the desire of all nations" is Jesus Christ.

Whether they know it or not Christ is the one the nations desire.

Originally posted by divegeester
Haggai 2: 6-7
For thus said the LORD of hosts; yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land; 7 [b] and I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, said the LORD of hosts.

Is this scripture referring to what we are seeing in ...[text shortened]... d weather events, but more specifically in Libya, Egypt, Bahrain and wider in the economic PIGs?[/b]

Oooo, I love playing Nostradamus!

Can someone list all things for which the word "shake" can be used as a metaphor?

Originally posted by jaywill
In Haggai's prophecy [b]" the desire of all nations" is Jesus Christ.

Whether they know it or not Christ is the one the nations desire.[/b]

6 “This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘In a little while I will once more shake the heavens and the earth, the sea and the dry land. 7 I will shake all nations, and what is desired by all nations will come, and I will fill this house with glory,’

So if this is speaking of Jesus, is this Jesus or his Father speaking this? Two things to consider is the term "Almighty" is used here. This term is never used in reference to Jesus anywhere in the Bible.
Also it would seem strange that Jesus would be speaking about himself in this way.

The ones that are desired from all nations will be the little flock or the 144,00 that are "bought from the earth" or from all nations. This number is what will complete or fill this house.
Jesus himself said he would go and "prepare a place" for his chosen followers who would follow him later.
So Jesus would already be there when this shaking would happen as he was the one who cast Satan to the earth.
Since he was already there preparing a place for the chosen ones, this does not apply to Jesus.

Originally posted by divegeester
Haggai 2: 6-7
For thus said the LORD of hosts; yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land; 7 [b] and I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, said the LORD of hosts.

Is this scripture referring to what we are seeing in ...[text shortened]... d weather events, but more specifically in Libya, Egypt, Bahrain and wider in the economic PIGs?[/b]

No.

I believe the verse you sited refers to the time immediately following the return of Jesus and not before.

So who is Zerubbabel governor of Judah, and the 'foreign kingdoms' are 'foreign' to whom?

Originally posted by josephw
No.

I believe the verse you sited refers to the time immediately following the return of Jesus and not before.

Sorry but that thought does not match the scripture here...

Originally posted by divegeester
Haggai 2: 6-7
For thus said the LORD of hosts; yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land; 7 [b] and I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, said the LORD of hosts.

Is this scripture referring to what we are seeing in ...[text shortened]... d weather events, but more specifically in Libya, Egypt, Bahrain and wider in the economic PIGs?[/b]

With some creativity one can arrange it such that so called "prophecies" hold true in many other cases - as has been suggested, with this one WW1 or WW2 would have done the job. Also one may consider near misses like asteroid DD45 back in 2005, Pandemics such as the 1918 spanish flu, global warming, economic meltdown (as you suggest) and so on...

None of the prophecies I have seen are specific enough that they cannot be made true in any number of different settings, or have sufficient integrity, substantiation so to bear out that any claims such prophecies 'came true' in the past (as opposed to being written true later on).


As such, as far as I'm concerned, prophetic 'evidence' carries zero weight when considering the veracity of holy books, or preparing for/acknowledging potential catastrophes.

Originally posted by Agerg
With some creativity one can arrange it such that so called "prophecies" hold true in many other cases - as has been suggested, with this one WW1 or WW2 would have done the job. Also one may consider near misses like asteroid DD45 back in 2005, Pandemics such as the 1918 spanish flu, global warming, economic meltdown (as you suggest) and so on...

None of th ...[text shortened]... dering the veracity of holy books, or preparing for/acknowledging potential catastrophes.

Such so-called biblical prophecies are so anachronistic these days that any thinking theist should (rightly) sweep them under the rug of "sign of the times". Clinging on to the perfection of every biblical word is a lost cause.

Originally posted by Agerg
With some creativity one can arrange it such that so called "prophecies" hold true in many other cases - as has been suggested, with this one WW1 or WW2 would have done the job. Also one may consider near misses like asteroid DD45 back in 2005, Pandemics such as the 1918 spanish flu, global warming, economic meltdown (as you suggest) and so on...

None of th ...[text shortened]... dering the veracity of holy books, or preparing for/acknowledging potential catastrophes.

Perhaps all these things are all parts of the sign Jesus said would show his presance and would be refering back to the 1st scripture quoted here on this thread.