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    06 Oct '07 01:51
    In what way is man's ability to create artificial life spiritually significant? By doing so has man circumvented God? Or is man merely copying the existing pattern?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/oct/06/genetics.climatechange
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    06 Oct '07 02:07
    Originally posted by epiphinehas
    In what way is man's ability to create artificial life spiritually significant? By doing so has man circumvented God? Or is man merely copying the existing pattern?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/oct/06/genetics.climatechange
    Of course it is significant. It's a good support God is not needed to create life. Makes religion once again incoherent and makes what science as achieved in accordance with itself.
    There can be a profound philosophical debate around this, but I don't have the patience to write.
    We don't need gods. Some of us are intelligent enough to get there. How about you all? Do you need your gods to live?
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    06 Oct '07 02:19
    It is then transplanted into a living bacterial cell and in the final stage of the process it is expected to take control of the cell and in effect become a new life form.

    That's not creating life. That's modifying life.
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    06 Oct '07 02:19
    Originally posted by serigado
    Of course it is significant. It's a good support God is not needed to create life. Makes religion once again incoherent and makes what science as achieved in accordance with itself.
    There can be a profound philosophical debate around this, but I don't have the patience to write.
    We don't need gods. Some of us are intelligent enough to get there. How about you all? Do you need your gods to live?
    no .. I need God after Im dead
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    06 Oct '07 02:22
    Originally posted by epic0002
    no .. I need God after Im dead
    Your needs don't influence reality. Don't rely on gods for your need. Rely on people you love.
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    06 Oct '07 02:23
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    [b]It is then transplanted into a living bacterial cell and in the final stage of the process it is expected to take control of the cell and in effect become a new life form.

    That's not creating life. That's modifying life.[/b]
    You don't understand nothing about biology. Please refrain from commenting what you don't understand.
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    06 Oct '07 02:391 edit
    Originally posted by serigado
    You don't understand nothing about biology. Please refrain from commenting what you don't understand.
    I have a BS in Chemical Biology from UC Berkeley. Don't tell me what I know or don't know you tool.

    You, on the other hand, are in Physics, not Biology.
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    06 Oct '07 02:52
    Originally posted by serigado
    Your needs don't influence reality. Don't rely on gods for your need. Rely on people you love.
    I forgot.. you can always count on the unwaivering humanπŸ˜•
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    06 Oct '07 09:56
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I have a BS in Chemical Biology from UC Berkeley. Don't tell me what I know or don't know you tool.

    You, on the other hand, are in Physics, not Biology.
    I have to back Mr AThousandYoung.

    According to the Press Release from the Craig Venter Institute :

    Researchers at the J. Craig Venter Institute (JCVI) today announced the results of work on genome transplantation methods allowing them to transform one type of bacteria into another type dictated by the transplanted chromosome. The work, published online in the journal Science, by JCVI’s Carole Lartigue, Ph.D. and colleagues, outlines the methods and techniques used to change one bacterial species , Mycoplasma capricolum into another , Mycoplasma mycoides Large Colony (LC), by replacing one organism’s genome with the other one’s genome.

    Press Release could be found here : http://www.jcvi.org/press/news/news_2007_06_28.php

    The article in Science could be found here: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/317/5838/632
    (I don't have full access from my home, so I'll have to look into that later).
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    06 Oct '07 09:58
    So, the lesson is - don't believe tabloids.
    πŸ˜€
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    06 Oct '07 11:47
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I have a BS in Chemical Biology from UC Berkeley. Don't tell me what I know or don't know you tool.

    You, on the other hand, are in Physics, not Biology.
    The next thing he will be telling us is that they have created matter as well as life. πŸ˜›
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    06 Oct '07 12:161 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    The next thing he will be telling us is that they have created matter as well as life. πŸ˜›
    That only happens at particle accelerators.

    πŸ˜‰
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    06 Oct '07 12:241 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    The next thing he will be telling us is that they have created matter as well as life. πŸ˜›
    They have already, tell me your position now.
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    06 Oct '07 12:25
    Originally posted by epic0002
    no .. I need God after Im dead
    That does not make sense.

    You do not need God to live but you need God after you are dead? That does not make any sense to me.

    Is your god of the dead? Is the realm of death the only realm in which your god is relevant and useful?
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    06 Oct '07 12:27
    Originally posted by epic0002
    I forgot.. you can always count on the unwaivering humanπŸ˜•
    At least you can know for sure humans exist. If I'm feeling bad I don't pray, I call my friends for a drink. They've been a lot more supportive then any god I know.
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