25 Jul 14
Originally posted by sonhouseActually, something has. RJHinds was a primary reason that I chose to read up on evolution. It has helped me to explain evolution to my son far better than I could have done before. I have also discussed it with colleagues at work as a result, and recommended the same reading to them.
Maybe something good will evolve from RJ Hinds, eventually.
As I believe in the butterfly effect, this is good news, though not for RJ.
26 Jul 14
Originally posted by Rank outsiderWhat is your job? How many folks at work poo poo evolution?
Actually, something has. RJHinds was a primary reason that I chose to read up on evolution. It has helped me to explain evolution to my son far better than I could have done before. I have also discussed it with colleagues at work as a result, and recommended the same reading to them.
As I believe in the butterfly effect, this is good news, though not for RJ.
26 Jul 14
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Originally posted by sonhouseNone. The discussion was not about is evolution true or not. It was about how to best rebut silly arguments like 'if man is descended from apes, why are there still apes' and such like. Or there must be a watchmaker if there is a watch etc.
What is your job? How many folks at work poo poo evolution?
It was not the belief in evolution we were discussing, but about passing on the best information and evidence to our kids to defend against people who argue against it.
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Originally posted by Rank outsider"Why evolution is true" by Jerry A. Coyne is an excellent read for just this purpose. I love that book.
It was about how to best rebut silly arguments like 'if man is descended from apes, why are there still apes' and such like. Or there must be a watchmaker if there is a watch etc.
It was not the belief in evolution we were discussing, but about passing on the best information and evidence to our kids to defend against people who argue against it.
27 Jul 14
Originally posted by Rank outsiderThis sounds like it was about putting forward the best of the propaganda supporting the theory of evolution or actually EVILution.
None. The discussion was not about is evolution true or not. It was about how to best rebut silly arguments like 'if man is descended from apes, why are there still apes' and such like. Or there must be a watchmaker if there is a watch etc.
It was not the belief in evolution we were discussing, but about passing on the best information and evidence to our kids to defend against people who argue against it.
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27 Jul 14
Originally posted by RJHindsNo, it's a compilation of facts that completely destroys the typical creationist arguments.
It is just more propaganda on evolution for those that are ignorant of the truth. Only the wicked would love that book.
Plus, it's written in an entertaining, accessible way.
27 Jul 14
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Originally posted by C HessYes, in fact that was the book recommended to me by twhitehead on the Science Forum, a request which was prompted by another asinine RJ posting.
"Why evolution is true" by Jerry A. Coyne is an excellent read for just this purpose. I love that book.
It is an excellent book, one I have offered in the past to send for free to any person on this forum who does not believe in evolution, providing they agree to read it with an open mind. Not one taker so far.
Galveston75 was the most amusing, in that he said he would have taken up the offer, but the 'only reason' he wouldn't was because he didn't want to give out his address to a stranger. After we went round the houses with me suggesting ways he could get the book at my expense without me knowing his address (even offering to PayPal him the cash, and trusting him to buy the book) he eventually confessed that he did not want to read it because it was 'just a bunch of made up crap'. Though he had just spent numerous pages of posts claiming he was open-minded on the issue.
It must be depressing for RJ to know that, for all his endless work and effort, the only tangible result has been to get Mr Coyne some free advertising and extra sales for his work, and to help arm the next generation to resist YEC nonsense. If he is doing God's work, he could hardly be doing it worse.
27 Jul 14
Originally posted by C HessHe makes many mistakes, especially with so-called whale evolution.
No, it's a compilation of facts that completely destroys the typical creationist arguments.
Plus, it's written in an entertaining, accessible way.
WHALE EVOLUTION - WHY THE DECEPTION ?
Whales - Designed or Evolved?
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27 Jul 14
Originally posted by RJHindsI looked at the beginning of the first video (silly me for thinking you'd produce some look-
He makes many mistakes, especially with so-called whale evolution.
WHALE EVOLUTION - WHY THE DECEPTION ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G5vAc5_VJo
Whales - Designed or Evolved?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mMa3UORbJ4
worthy links), and I have to say it's getting embarrassing at this point. In order for a
creationist to win an argument these days, he must cut out all the replies. You know, when
the replies in a debate has to be cut out, it usually means you're on the wrong side of the
argument.
Just saying. 😕