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Spirituality

Spirituality

  1. Subscriber Tom Wolsey
    Aficionado of Prawns
    25 May '18 01:02
    Atheist Circular Reasoning in BASIC

    10 God doesn't exist. -because-
    20 There is no evidence for God. -because-
    30 Any presented evidence for God is not evidence. -because-
    40 GOTO 10
  2. Standard member Romans1009
    Cretinous Mutterings
    25 May '18 01:44
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Atheist Circular Reasoning in BASIC

    10 God doesn't exist. -because-
    20 There is no evidence for God. -because-
    30 Any presented evidence for God is not evidence. -because-
    40 GOTO 10
    What amazes me about atheists is how much time they spend advancing essentially an anti position.

    If you don’t believe something, fine. Why waste time trying to convince others not to believe? Where is the satisfaction in that?

    I also find amazing that atheists will say they think it’s great someone finds comfort and support in believing in God, while simultaneously trying to take that away.

    Bizarre people. Nuttier than a bowl of mixed nuts.
  3. Subscriber BigDoggProblem
    The Advanced Mind
    25 May '18 04:18 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Atheist Circular Reasoning in BASIC

    10 God doesn't exist. -because-
    20 There is no evidence for God. -because-
    30 Any presented evidence for God is not evidence. -because-
    40 GOTO 10
    That program has a bug on line 30. 😛

    My guess is that your post is aimed at agnostics of the sort that claim the truth of the existence of god(s) is not knowable.

    Maybe we should simply point-blank ask them why they think such truths aren't knowable.

    (Note that such an agnostic does not assert the belief of line 10, however!)
  4. Subscriber BigDoggProblem
    The Advanced Mind
    25 May '18 04:21
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    What amazes me about atheists is how much time they spend advancing essentially an anti position.

    If you don’t believe something, fine. Why waste time trying to convince others not to believe? Where is the satisfaction in that?

    I also find amazing that atheists will say they think it’s great someone finds comfort and support in believing in God, wh ...[text shortened]... e simultaneously trying to take that away.

    Bizarre people. Nuttier than a bowl of mixed nuts.
    Spirituality can be described as a quest to find meaning in life. Looked at in that sense, it's not surprising that atheists are as enthusiastic about discussing it as theists.

    You just can't see outside your bubble, that's all.
  5. Standard member Romans1009
    Cretinous Mutterings
    25 May '18 04:36
    Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
    Spirituality can be described as a quest to find meaning in life. Looked at in that sense, it's not surprising that atheists are as enthusiastic about discussing it as theists.

    You just can't see outside your bubble, that's all.
    You’d have a point if online atheists discussed finding meaning in life.
  6. Subscriber BigDoggProblem
    The Advanced Mind
    25 May '18 08:10
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    You’d have a point if online atheists discussed finding meaning in life.
    They do.

    You're deaf.

    Big surprise.
  7. Standard member Romans1009
    Cretinous Mutterings
    25 May '18 08:16
    Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
    They do.

    You're deaf.

    Big surprise.
    If I were deaf, I’d still know what they discussed online since that involves reading. You know, eyesight as opposed to hearing?

    Looks like you’re making no sense yet again.

    Big surprise.

    And if you think atheists online spend their time discussing the meaning of life, you’re nuttier than a bowl of mixed nuts.
  8. Subscriber Tom Wolsey
    Aficionado of Prawns
    25 May '18 13:56
    Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
    They do.

    You're deaf.

    Big surprise.
    Jesus said atheists are deaf. And blind. So....
  9. 25 May '18 14:07
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Jesus said atheists are deaf. And blind. So....
    Those who are blind are those who do evil.
    Those who see are those who only do good.

    Luke 6
    39And He also spoke a parable to them: “A blind man cannot guide a blind man, can he? Will they not both fall into a pit? 40“A pupil is not above his teacher; but everyone, after he has been fully trained, will be like his teacher. 41“Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 42“Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother’s eye. 43“For there is no good tree which produces bad fruit, nor, on the other hand, a bad tree which produces good fruit. 44“For each tree is known by its own fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns, nor do they pick grapes from a briar bush. 45“The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart.
  10. Standard member apathist
    looking for loot
    25 May '18 14:07
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Atheist Circular Reasoning in BASIC

    10 God doesn't exist. -because-...
    Fail. Atheism does not require what you claim here.
  11. Subscriber Tom Wolsey
    Aficionado of Prawns
    25 May '18 14:11
    Originally posted by @apathist
    Fail. Atheism does not require what you claim here.
    Um, are you saying the atheist doesn't require or even care about reasons to substantiate the claim that God doesn't exist?

    Edit: Weird!
  12. Standard member apathist
    looking for loot
    25 May '18 14:13
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    ...
    If you don’t believe something, fine. Why waste time trying to convince others not to believe? Where is the satisfaction in that?...
    Religion causes much harm, even here and now. Plus there is the general idea that I'd like people to think good, especially people I care about. I have theists in my life and I don't give them grief unless they say something stupid. They return the favor, btw.
  13. Standard member apathist
    looking for loot
    25 May '18 14:14
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Um, are you saying the atheist doesn't require or even care about reasons to substantiate the claim that God doesn't exist?

    Edit: Weird!
    I said you misrepresented atheism with bullet one.
  14. Standard member apathist
    looking for loot
    25 May '18 14:19 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    ...
    And if you think atheists online spend their time discussing the meaning of life, you’re nuttier than a bowl of mixed nuts.
    Secular is normal. Even theists do it. You like fishing or art?
  15. Subscriber Tom Wolsey
    Aficionado of Prawns
    25 May '18 14:21
    Originally posted by @apathist
    I said you misrepresented atheism with bullet one.
    It's a circular endless loop. There may be a starting point but after 1 cycle, the starting point is irrelevant. You can start the program at line 20 if you want.

    I took the idea from a meme someone posted which would have been more effective, but I can't post pictures so I had to do it via line items.