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Atheist Circular Reasoning

Atheist Circular Reasoning

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If you need the threat of eternal torture to be a good person, you're not a good person.

Anon.

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
If you need the threat of eternal torture to be a good person, you're not a good person.

Anon.
You really have no idea why people believe in God and what it means to love and appreciate God.

It’s like you’re wandering around lost in a forest and insisting you know where you are.

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
If you need the threat of eternal torture to be a good person, you're not a good person.

Anon.
"If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed." -Einstein

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Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
"If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed." -Einstein
That’s not why believers are good. They’re good because they love God.

Not surprisingly, atheists can’t comprehend this.

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Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
What. The "sincere, intelligent" thing? But if a "sincere, intelligent" theist is wrong, then they belong in the ignorant bucket. Not meant derogatorily either. Correct?
Actually, yes. Good point. "Ignorant" applies, but not necessarily in a derogatory way.

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I am a sworn atheist and therefore from my point of view the Talmud or the Koran don't constitute works of political philosophy but rather writings that stand in utter contradiction to concepts like logic, freedom, feminism, secularism, brotherhood - which are my ideals.

Michel Onfray

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Religion is giving hope to people in a world torn apart by religion.

Jon Stewart.

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Religion is giving hope to people in a world torn apart by religion.

Jon Stewart.
What do you think the world would be like if everyone were an atheist? You really think it would be better?

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Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us, only sky
Imagine all the people living for today

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one.

John Lennon

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Originally posted by @romans1009
“I humbly add I have spent more than 42 years as a defense trial lawyer appearing in many parts of the world and am still in active practice. I have been fortunate to secure a number of successes in jury trials and I say unequivocally the evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ is so overwhelming that it compels acceptance by proof which leaves absolutely no room for doubt.”

Sir Lionel Luckhoo
Defence lawyers are hardly the most trustworthy people around when it comes to objective truth.

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Originally posted by @stellspalfie
Defence lawyers are hardly the most trustworthy people around when it comes to objective truth.
Fallacy of virtue. A claim is not untrue simply because you find the source questionable.

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Originally posted by @stellspalfie
Defence lawyers are hardly the most trustworthy people around when it comes to objective truth.
Whom would you suggest to be more trustworthy when it comes to objective truth?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Whom would you suggest to be more trustworthy when it comes to objective truth?
In this situation, although not much better than the lawyer, it would be the jury who should be trusted to be more objective.

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Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
Fallacy of virtue. A claim is not untrue simply because you find the source questionable.
A source can be dismissed if it fails evaluation criteria.

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Originally posted by @stellspalfie
A source can be dismissed if it fails evaluation criteria.
Which objective evaluation criteria do you believe the Bible has failed?