23 Dec 07
Originally posted by KellyJayI disagree. i think they have the same type of dogma as most religions and their own nihilistic ideology.
The only thing I would say about atheist that is true of just them is
that have nothing/no one to believe in deity wise, and do not like it
the idea of others having something or someone to believe in. Which
is why they spend so much time trying to hide from it or shun it by
getting it out of the public arena.
Kelly
23 Dec 07
Originally posted by KellyJayWhat really is the difference between Jehovah and Atheo?
I think they have dogma, but no deity unless you count themselves.
Kelly
I see it as a distinction without a difference.
Both sides ask me to believe in their god as the only true god, just like so many other religions.
23 Dec 07
Originally posted by Red NightYou've yet to actually offer proof of any of you ridiculous notions. As usual with you it's all about what you say being taken as granted and opposition ideas being dealt with under your smug 'It's okay, peace to you and your wrong ideas' crapola, let alone the clear hypocrisy you have in your acceptance of all beliefs and religions. As bbarr says; 'saccharine'. Learn what the definitions, implications and beliefs of the various different ideologies are, then come back and say something meaningful instead of your sloppy, smug dross.
I understand that one of the "cool" aspects of your new religion is the rejection of God. But, let's be honest, you are not the first religion to do this...far from it.
I'm sorry that you see me as attacking your "belief" structure. People get very defensive when they feel their religion is under attack.
My goal was to point out that there are fund ...[text shortened]... .
In any event, I embrace your creed like all others.
Peace to you and your new god.
23 Dec 07
Originally posted by KellyJayWhat utter crap.
The only thing I would say about atheist that is true of just them is
that have nothing/no one to believe in deity wise, and do not like it
the idea of others having something or someone to believe in. Which
is why they spend so much time trying to hide from it or shun it by
getting what others believe out of the public arena.
Kelly
23 Dec 07
Atheism creates an ideology that seeks to explain creation and the meaning of life....but it is not a religion...oh no it's fact. Religion is a lie. They are right and all others are wrong.
Atheists may be more protective of their dogma than any other religion.
We should all be careful lest we get burned at the stake by the Atheinquisition for denying the "absolute truth" of their muddled understanding of science.
24 Dec 07
Originally posted by Red NightWhat a total load of crap you spout. It really is a talent, I've never met anyone quite as confused as you.
Atheism creates an ideology that seeks to explain creation and the meaning of life....but it is not a religion...oh no it's fact. Religion is a lie. They are right and all others are wrong.
Atheists may be more protective of their dogma than any other religion.
We should all be careful lest we get burned at the stake by the Atheinquisition for denying the "absolute truth" of their muddled understanding of science.
24 Dec 07
Originally posted by scottishinnzAtheists say there is no God.
What a total load of crap you spout. It really is a talent, I've never met anyone quite as confused as you.
They say that Christianity is a religion for worshipping a God that doesn't exist.
Yet Atheism isn't a religion for worshipping a god that doesn't exist.
Surely, even you can see the irony in that.
24 Dec 07
Originally posted by Red NightYou seem to have suddenly flipped position.
Atheists say there is no God.
They say that Christianity is a religion for worshipping a God that doesn't exist.
Yet Atheism isn't a religion for worshipping a god that doesn't exist.
Surely, even you can see the irony in that.
Now you seem to accept that atheism is not a religion. You also seem to accept the point that atheists believe God does not exist.
However, we do not worship. We have no churches, no Sunday School, we have no pilgrimages, no confession, or prophets, or mass. We have no scriptures we hold to be unalterable. We prostrate ourselves upon the ground for no graven idol.
24 Dec 07
Originally posted by scottishinnzI haven't flipped positions.
You seem to have suddenly flipped position.
Now you seem to accept that atheism is not a religion. You also seem to accept the point that atheists believe God does not exist.
However, we do not worship. We have no churches, no Sunday School, we have no pilgrimages, no confession, or prophets, or mass. We have no scriptures we hold to be unalterable. We prostrate ourselves upon the ground for no graven idol.
You have dogma and ideology that seek to explain creation and life.
That you believe your views to be absolute truth does not distinguish you from any other religion.
24 Dec 07
Originally posted by Red NightNo, I have evidence and theory.
I haven't flipped positions.
You have dogma and ideology that seek to explain creation and life.
That you believe your views to be absolute truth does not distinguish you from any other religion.
They are malleable and change as new evidence comes in. We do not believe these to be absolute truth.
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24 Dec 07
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Originally posted by Red NightPerhaps no-one has said it forcefully enough yet.
Atheism creates an ideology that seeks to explain creation and the meaning of life....but it is not a religion...oh no it's fact. Religion is a lie. They are right and all others are wrong.
Atheists may be more protective of their dogma than any other religion.
We should all be careful lest we get burned at the stake by the Atheinquisition for denying the "absolute truth" of their muddled understanding of science.
RN, I'm sorry, but your comparison does not work. I appreciate the effort you are putting into it, but it's time to try something else. Perhaps just don't push it quite so hard next time, OK?
Any fool can see that Atheism isn't a religion -- in fact I don't think you actually believe it is -- you seem to think it's quite a funny, quaint comparison. The only problem is that you seem to be imagining the similarities.
Edit: To be honest, I don't think there is anything more to be said. Just try to think up a slightly more feasible game to try to annoy non-religious types with.
24 Dec 07
Originally posted by HumeAIs Zen Buddhism a religion or a philosophy?
Perhaps no-one has said it forcefully enough yet.
RN, I'm sorry, but your comparison does not work. I appreciate the effort you are putting into it, but it's time to try something else. Perhaps just don't push it quite so hard next time, OK?
Any fool can see that Atheism isn't a religion -- in fact I don't think you actually believe it is -- you seem to ...[text shortened]... t try to think up a slightly more feasible game to try to annoy non-religious types with.