Originally posted by twhiteheadIt was more of the arrogance I was commenting on than the lack of humility but whatever, matters very little to me anyhow. I think atheists don't perceive how they come across sometimes, perhaps they don't care I dunno... seems to me there is a common attitude typical with athesim and how they communicte with those of differing opinions, it's not very flattering.
And for me, people who have to point out the lack of humility in others (merely because they don't like the argument being made) are also somewhat lacking.
As far as the thread, it is not a matter of like or dislike, have no thoughts one way or another. Lacking? I lack in many ways, but I am very comfortable in my own skin and don't feel the need to participate in the dance of the peacock and lord it over others.
Originally posted by kd2aczBravo.
It was more of the arrogance I was commenting on than the lack of humility but whatever, matters very little to me anyhow. I think atheists don't perceive how they come across sometimes, perhaps they don't care I dunno... seems to me there is a common attitude typical with athesim and how they communicte with those of differing opinions, it's not very flatt ...[text shortened]... and don't feel the need to participate in the dance of the peacock and lord it over others.
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Originally posted by kd2aczAnd I was pointing out that your real reason for saying it was that you could not address my actual points, so you chose to attack my person.
It was more of the arrogance I was commenting on than the lack of humility but whatever, matters very little to me anyhow.
I think atheists don't perceive how they come across sometimes, perhaps they don't care I dunno... seems to me there is a common attitude typical with athesim and how they communicte with those of differing opinions, it's not very flattering.
And you think you are an exception? Calling me arrogant is flattering? As I pointed out, pointing at other peoples flaws is as flawed as pointing to ones own highlights, if not more so.
I lack in many ways, but I am very comfortable in my own skin and don't feel the need to participate in the dance of the peacock and lord it over others.
It seems to me that you were trying to 'lord it over others' by attempting to point out what you see as flaws in their personalities.
This reminds me of the irony of people going around quoting Jesus and telling other people to take the log out of their eyes. Its a catch 22, you cannot criticise other people for being critical.
Originally posted by twhiteheadAnd I was pointing out that your real reason for saying it was that you could not address my actual points, so you chose to attack my person.
And I was pointing out that your real reason for saying it was that you could not address my actual ... [edit]... for being critical.
Sorry TH, if you felt a personal attack, I was and am referring to the 'general' attitudes of atheists and some of the comments they make. There is nothing personal here I assure you, I don't even know you. My 'real' reason, has been stated, nothing veiled here.
And you think you are an exception? Calling me arrogant is flattering? As I pointed out, pointing at other peoples flaws is as flawed as pointing to ones own highlights, if not more so.
Exception... Don't think of myself in any such way, quite the opposite actually. Again, I am speaking to a general attitude of atheists from what I have seen, nothing personal I assure you as I have already indicated.
It seems to me that you were trying to 'lord it over others' by attempting to point out what you see as flaws in their personalities.
Not so.
This reminds me of the irony of people going around quoting Jesus and telling other people to take the log out of their eyes. Its a catch 22, you cannot criticise other people for being critical.
What you are referring to here is judging, I have judged no one. I have only pointed out the attitude that I have seen not only in something you said but what others have said as well, it seems to be common with atheists, not all but some.
Originally posted by kd2aczAll of that could refer to theists, particularly those that believe in one particular version of the biblical sky fairy.
It was more of the arrogance I was commenting on than the lack of humility but whatever, matters very little to me anyhow. I think atheists don't perceive how they come across sometimes, perhaps they don't care I dunno... seems to me there is a common attitude typical with athesim and how they communicte with those of differing opinions, it's not very flatt ...[text shortened]... and don't feel the need to participate in the dance of the peacock and lord it over others.
If the biblical sky fairy is the one true god why are there so many versions of it? You'd think such a being would ensure that all his followers were at least singing from the same hymn sheet.
Originally posted by KeplerThe biblical sky fairy gave us free will so that we can sing any hymn we can make up. However, he does not like all hymns. So if we wish to please the biblical sky fairy, we must find a hymn that he likes and sing that one. And I think it will contain the words:
All of that could refer to theists, particularly those that believe in one particular version of the biblical sky fairy.
If the biblical sky fairy is the one true god why are there so many versions of it? You'd think such a being would ensure that all his followers were at least singing from the same hymn sheet.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
The Instructor
Originally posted by RJHindsIt doesn't help those outside to decide to enter if none of you believers can agree on who or what it is you believe.
The biblical sky fairy gave us free will so that we can sing any hymn we can make up. However, he does not like all hymns. So if we wish to please the biblical sky fairy, we must find a hymn that he likes and sing that one. And I think it will contain the words:
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
The Instructor
Originally posted by kd2aczIt was a direct reply to my post essentially accusing me of lacking humility.
Sorry TH, if you felt a personal attack, I was and am referring to the 'general' attitudes of atheists and some of the comments they make. There is nothing personal here I assure you, I don't even know you.
Exception... Don't think of myself in any such way, quite the opposite actually. Again, I am speaking to a general attitude of atheists from what I have seen, nothing personal I assure you as I have already indicated.
Nevertheless by pointing out flaws in atheists as a group that you do not belong to, you are essentially demonstrating your lack of humility, the very thing you accuse atheists of.
What you are referring to here is judging, I have judged no one.
You most definitely have.
I have only pointed out the attitude that I have seen not only in something you said but what others have said as well, it seems to be common with atheists, not all but some.
And in pointing it out, you were judging.