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-Removed-what does the Bible say? and the answer is yes, as has been explained to you countless times, there are awaiting in the grave millions of persons who will be resurrected and who are as yet, not Jehovah Witnesses and who have every prospect of gaining the free gift of everlasting life, now you will tell the forum what it is about that, that is difficult to understand, that is unclear, ambiguous or that does not answer you question?
Originally posted by sonshipoh i have shown it, the fact that you fail to recognise or acknowledge it is not my fault, your God is a torturer, are you denying it?you mean a different one from the torturer monster that you have created, you bet.
I count this comment as almost hysterical slander.
You have no shown me I have "created" a concept that cannot be found in the Holy Bible.
Rather I recognize many sides and aspects to God. Why should God not have many aspects love with righteousnes ...[text shortened]... ristians I meet with throughout the world through this website:
http://an-open-letter.org
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Originally posted by Proper Knobthe here and now is rather different, it seems to me that there are some rather complicated Biblical passages that need understanding, ill just stick my neck out and say yes, i think you need to be a part of Jehovah witnesses to survive the great tribulation and Armageddon and thus see salvation, although explaining why could be rather involved.
What about in the here and now, those alive on the earth today?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
oh i have shown it, the fact that you fail to recognise or acknowledge it is not my fault, your God is a torturer, are you denying it?
oh i have shown it, the fact that you fail to recognise or acknowledge it is not my fault, your God is a torturer, are you denying it?
No. I affirm that some of the enemies of God will drink the wine of His "fury" mixed undiluted in the cup of His "wrath."
I affirm that God who became a man and was tortured on the cross by torturers and bore up the terrible just judgment of God for sinners, will personally look on the torment of some of the enemies of God.
Revelation 14 tells me of this torment. It is not for sadistic pleasure of God but for eternal judgment of justice.
"And another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
He also shall drink the wine of the fury of God, which is mixed undiluted in the cup of His wrath; and he shall be tormented in fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb.
And the smoke of their tormenting goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name." (Rev. 14:9-11)
The question is now turned to YOU. Do you believe God will do what He says He will do in Revelation 14:9-11 ?
If you do not believe it because you are ashamed of God the torturer, that is between you and Jehovah. Then you are ashamed of the Lamb Jesus Christ - the incarnated Redeeming Godman of the New Testament.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat scripture verse says that millions are in the grave waiting to be resurrected? It is your body that is placed in the grave and there the flesh decays off the bone and returns back to the elements of the ground. Jesus speaks of the soul of a man also (Luke 12:5). Jesus told one of the men being crucified with Him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”
what does the Bible say? and the answer is yes, as has been explained to you countless times, there are awaiting in the grave millions of persons who will be resurrected and who are as yet, not Jehovah Witnesses and who have every prospect of gaining the free gift of everlasting life, now you will tell the forum what it is about that, that is difficult to understand, that is unclear, ambiguous or that does not answer you question?
(Luke 23:43 NKJV)
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