Barriers to belief

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So you believe it is possible for someone who had real faith to loose it? What does that say about God being the author and finisher of his faith? Did God do an incomplete work in FMFs life?

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This time is seems you are the piss taker, because each time you can't answer a question you dodge it and call me a piss taker.

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No need to chat too much with you divegeester.
You call sound NT teaching "mumbo jumbo."

Such a poor attitude doesn't encourage me to chat much.
Identifying difficulties and countering with reasoned alternative views, I don't mind at all.
Dismissing my fellowship as "mumbo jumbo" is too cheap.

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Nothing wrong with universal truth, what is wrong is expecting others to agree.

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Parable of the sower explained by Jesus

Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: 19 When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart. This is the seed sown along the path. 20 The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. 21 But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. 22 The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful. 23 But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it. This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.”


Notice Jesus blames the type of heart not God failing.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
[1]Which stuff did you have faith in that turned out not to be real? [2] And how did you know they were not real?

[1] The stuff Christians believe about God, Jesus and themselves. [2] I lost my belief in the veracity of the supposed evidence.

I have told you these things over and over and over again.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk to divegeester
Go and read FMFs post on page 19 of this thread. These are his exact words, "Of course what I believed to be real was, in fact, not real."

Why are you pretending not to understand?

My faith was real. It was genuine. It was sincere. It was longstanding. It was stitched into every facet of my life and underpinned my every action. It was real to me.

As my beliefs changed, I realized that the things I had believed were not real.

This does not mean that my faith was not real.

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Not to me.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Your faith was either real or it wasn't. So which was it?

My faith was real.