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Originally posted by RJHinds
I know he should have said the universe first began to exist about 10 thousand years ago. But he is still learning.
So that is your only refutation of my response to that article? You have nothing else to say about what I wrote, only he is still learning? I guess that means you are not....

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Originally posted by RJHinds
There is no rhyme or reason to it all. It just happened. Is that your worldview?
Assuming you are talking about the beginning of the universe:

There is no rhyme or reason to it all.


yes; if what you mean by “rhyme or reason” is “purpose”.

It just happened.


no; not if you are implying it just happened “by chance”.

NO chance AND NO purpose; get it now?
One does not logically exclude the other.
If you say it does, then explain how so to us.....

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Would you take the time to read this with an open mind?

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheismintro.html
The second principle is that skeptics must be logically consistent at all times.
Wait, shouldn't this be everyone's principle? 😵

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Originally posted by sonhouse
So that is your only refutation of my response to that article? You have nothing else to say about what I wrote, only he is still learning? I guess that means you are not....
I guess I could say you did not spend enough time to really understand what the evidence is, but you know that already. I guess I can't help you, if you really don't want what Christ has to offer.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I guess I could say you did not spend enough time to really understand what the evidence is, but you know that already. I guess I can't help you, if you really don't want what Christ has to offer.
Tell you what, Jesus comes down here and tells me how it is, I'll for sure listen. Anybody else tells me that, forget it. I don't trust ANY human when it comes to religion.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Tell you what, Jesus comes down here and tells me how it is, I'll for sure listen. Anybody else tells me that, forget it. I don't trust ANY human when it comes to religion.
I don't think that's the way it works. The Holy Scriptures is your witness. When Christ comes back it will be judgment time.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't think that's the way it works. The Holy Scriptures is your witness. When Christ comes back it will be judgment time.
Your so-called holy scripture was holy written by men who pronounced themselves holy and lo and behold, people fell for it and we are living with the dreadful results to this day.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Your so-called holy scripture was holy written by men who pronounced themselves holy and lo and behold, people fell for it and we are living with the dreadful results to this day.
The men that wrote the books of the Holy Bible did not pronounce themselves holy. Jonah, for example, rejected the service of God and considered himself rejected by God when he wound up inside the big fish and cried out to God because of his affliction.

Then I said, ‘I have been cast out of Your sight;
Yet I will look again toward Your holy temple.’
(Jonah 2:4 NKJV)

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Originally posted by RJHinds
The men that wrote the books of the Holy Bible did not pronounce themselves holy. Jonah, for example, rejected the service of God and considered himself rejected by God when he wound up inside the big fish and cried out to God because of his affliction.

Then I said, ‘I have been cast out of Your sight;
Yet I will look again toward Your holy temple.’
(Jonah 2:4 NKJV)
Sure, he was swallowed up by a whale and spit out again. Great fairy tale.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Sure, he was swallowed up by a whale and spit out again. Great fairy tale.
I guess Jesus thought so to for He used that story when He prophesied how long he would be in the grave.

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. (Matthew 12:40 NKJV)

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I guess Jesus thought so to for He used that story when He prophesied how long he would be in the grave.

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. (Matthew 12:40 NKJV)
Makes a great self fulfilling prophesy for sure. Besides, JC did not die on the cross. If you notice, he was anointed with healing herbs like aloe which you don't use on a dead person, only on someone you hope to heal. That is in your very bible.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Makes a great self fulfilling prophesy for sure. Besides, JC did not die on the cross. If you notice, he was anointed with healing herbs like aloe which you don't use on a dead person, only on someone you hope to heal. That is in your very bible.
You have been paying too much attention to skeptics and false teachers. A Mayo Clinic study of the crucifixion information resulted in a conclusion that Jesus did die on the cross. See section 7.

http://www.frugalsites.net/jesus/crucifixion.htm

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Originally posted by RJHinds
You have been paying too much attention to skeptics and false teachers. A Mayo Clinic study of the crucifixion information resulted in a conclusion that Jesus did die on the cross. See section 7.

http://www.frugalsites.net/jesus/crucifixion.htm
I was paying attention to what was written in the bible. You don't put Aloe on dead people. You put aloe on people you are trying to heal.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
I was paying attention to what was written in the bible. You don't put Aloe on dead people. You put aloe on people you are trying to heal.
That may be true today, but who knows what they did then. Even if they were wishing to heal Jesus, who ever heard of Aloe bringing someone back from the dead? The Mayo Clinic study concluded He was dead before He was taken down from the cross. That is a modern medical science conclusion.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
That may be true today, but who knows what they did then. Even if they were wishing to heal Jesus, who ever heard of Aloe bringing someone back from the dead? The Mayo Clinic study concluded He was dead before He was taken down from the cross. That is a modern medical science conclusion.
Which is interesting since there is no body to analyze so what they have is just opinion. So scientific opinion works for you as long as it agrees with your dogma.