Originally posted by @divegeester
I presume most Christians in here believe that the teaching of the infallibility of the bible, also means the literalness of it? Maybe I'm wrong.
Most of the biblical related arguments I have with Christians in this forum are driven by the above premise. For example:
- The garden of Eden, the tree, the fruit. Is is all literal?
- Eternal sufferi ...[text shortened]... d and evil, with REAL juicy fruit, and if you eat it you die. REALLY??
Where is it now then?
Indigenous to the Middle East apple trees were non-existent. But among all the countless plants and trees in the Garden, one could see solely one single apple tree.
After G-d created Adam and Eve, these protohumans had no concept of “good” and “evil” and had lack of morality, they were living in the Garden like happy gods. It was cool in the Garden, even the animals had an eternally sweet time in eternal peace with no bloodshed. The lions were eating kinoa and the crocs juicy avocados. Any changes? No, Sir. Pure sunshine, although moonshine was a rare bird. Everybody was drinking just plain water. Pure and crystal clear water alright, but even that was inferior even to that awful thingy they enjoy up north in Canada, the Crown Royal.
And suddenly one day G-d deceived the protohumans into making them believe that the Apple was poisonous, whilst the one of a kind wise sneaky snake convinced ole Eve of the truth: Snakey told her the darn fruity was not poisonous, adding she would simply gain knowledge of good and evil if she ate it and that’s all.
Naturally born curious, girl pushes eager to excel boy –was the apple tasty? Go figure. They ain’t kick the bucket and everything was OK for a while, but then G-d drove loco and cursed Snakey and boy and girl and the ground and all, and on the spot Adam and Eve pictured what “becoming into full humanity” means: they ended up in an animal status with the sense of morality.
In fact, to sum it up:
G-d told Adam and Eve that the fruit was poisonous, which is literally a lie. They kept up living alright.
Snake told them the truth: Adam and Eve did not die on the spot because of that apple, and also they developed a sense of morality for the very first time.
And G-d knew that Eve was curious and Adam almost as bright and meticulous as Mr. George W. Bush, or even as the 45th American president, therefore it would be more good for the whole humanity and morally better to treat the kids right. G-d could tell them beforehand what exactly would happen, and then let them choose according to their free will. This only would be fair.
However I admit that Eve as a hardcore lass would probably go for it anyway and Adam would run after her, as is the case the last billion years –some insist that the right number is 6,000, oh well. So here we would be again dead in the water, staring directly them blurry eyes of that antelope chewing crocodile who ain’t veggie anymore.