Biblical literalists and literalisms

Originally posted by @josephw
Yes I would. I might even resort to using terms like "brood of vipers" or "whited wall" if necessary. 🙄

I might even use the term "pussy" like divegeester does.

Does anyone here believe that the trees of life and of knowledge in the garden of Eden, were real trees with leaves and roots and photosynthesis etc?

Originally posted by @divegeester
You first...?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Give it your best shot.

Originally posted by @divegeester
Do you have the courage and fortitude to state whether or not you believe everything in the bible to be literal, and if not then what isn't literal and why?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Why do you keep on deflecting the questions I ask you back at me?

Is there any Christian here who wants actually discuss this topic?

Originally posted by @sonship

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Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. —II Kings 8:26

Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. —II Chronicles 22:2

This would require more homework.
Interesting.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Great. Will you do that homework?! (Or was that just a dodge from the contradiction you can't explain?)

Perhaps you can share your results with Joseph and let him know why the below isn't a contradiction. (You may need to redesign mathematics).

Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. —II Kings 8:26

Forty and two years ...[text shortened]... ah when he began to reign. —II Chronicles 22:2


Psst, remember, the bible is without error.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Great. Will you do that homework?! (Or was that just a dodge from the contradiction you can't explain?)

Perhaps you can share your results with Joseph and let him know why the below isn't a contradiction. (You may need to redesign mathematics).

Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. —II Kings 8:26

Forty and two years ...[text shortened]... ah when he began to reign. —II Chronicles 22:2


Psst, remember, the bible is without error.

Originally posted by @sonship
Psst, you could always do some research yourself.

Copied with permission from Christian Think Tank

http://christianthinktank.com/texterrs.html

[Questioner]

4) 2 Kings 8:26/2 Chronicles 22:2: Either Ahaziah was 22 when he took the throne or 42. 22 makes a lot more sense because he would have had to have been older than his father to take the throne at 42 but here is another "copyist" error.

[Miller the apologist's remark ]

[Again, we have another mss tradition--the LXX--that preserves the 22 number in the 2 chronicles passage.]

Pulpit Commentary
Verse 26. - Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. The writer of Chronicles says, "two and forty" (2 Chronicles 22:2), which is absolutely impossible, since his father was but forty when he died (see ver. 17, and setup. 2 Chronicles 21:5, 20). Even "two and twenty" is a more advanced age than we should have expected, since Ahaziah was the youngest of Jehoram's sons (2 Chronicles 21:17); he must therefore have been born in his father's nineteenth year. Yet he had several elder brothers (2 Chronicles 21:17; 2 Chronicles 22:1)! To explain this, we have to remember

(1) the early age at which marriage is contracted in the East (twelve years); and

(2) the fact that each prince had, besides his wife, several concubines. That Joram had several appears from 2 Chronicles 21:17. And he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's Ares was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri King of Israel. There is something very remarkable in the dignity and precedence attached to Omri. He was, no doubt, regarded of a sort of second founder of the kingdom of Israel, having been the first monarch to establish anything like a stable dynasty. His "statutes" were looked upon as the fundamental laws of the kingdom, and were "kept" down to the time of its destruction (Micah 6:16). Foreigners knew Samaria as Beth. Khumri, or "the house of Omri." He is the only Israelite king mentioned by name on the Moabite Stone (line 5), and the earliest mentioned in the inscriptions of Assyria. Even Jehu, who put an end to his dynasty, was regarded by the Assyrians as his descendant, and known under the designation of" Yahua, the son of Khnmri" (Black Obelisk, epig. 2.). Athallah, the daughter of Ahab, is called "the daughter of Omri," not only in the present passage, but also in 2 Chronicles 22:2.

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign,.... In 2 Chronicles 22:2 he is said to be forty two years of age; for the solution of that difficulty See Gill on 2 Chronicles 22:2,

and he reigned one year in Jerusalem; which was the whole of his reign:

and his mother's name was Athaliah the daughter of Omri king of Israel; that is, his granddaughter; for she was the daughter of Ahab the son of Omri, 2 Kings 8:18, it was usual for grandchildren to be called children, sons and daughters, and perhaps she might be educated in the family of Omri.

Another comment the above copyist error

http://defendinginerrancy.com/bible-solutions/2_Kings_8.26.php

2 KINGS 8:26—WAS AHAZIAH 22 YEARS OLD WHEN HE BEGAN TO REIGN IN JUDAH, OR WAS HE 42 YEARS OLD?

PROBLEM: According to the statement in 2 Kings 8:26, Ahaziah was 22 years old when he began to reign in Judah. However, in 2 Chronicles 22:2 (kjv) we find the claim that Ahaziah was age 42 when he took the throne in Judah. Which is correct?
SOLUTION: This is clearly a copyist error, and there is sufficient evidence to demonstrate that Ahaziah was 22 years old when he began to reign in Judah. In 2 Kings 8:17, we find that Joram, father of Ahaziah and son of Ahab, was 32 years old when he became king. Joram died at age 40, eight years after becoming king. Consequently, his son Ahaziah could not have been 42 when he took the throne after his father’s death, otherwise he would have been older than his father.

Originally posted by @sonship
Another comment the above copyist error...

Originally posted by @divegeester
Does anyone here believe that the trees of life and of knowledge in the garden of Eden, were real trees with leaves and roots and photosynthesis etc?