Originally posted by Dasa Your childish proclamation to prove it / is evidence of your insincerity and foolishness.
You are a rascal.
prove what? that speculation is not dishonesty? this isnt a religion thing. its straightforward understanding of words. give me one reason why speculating is dishonest.
you are still yet to give me one shred of evidence that your religion has the truth. the very thing you accuse science of doing. this makes you as equally dishonest as everybody else. if you want to be above the rest of the rabble then you need to step up and provide proof. why dont you start by explaining how you know the vedas exist.
Originally posted by RJHinds God only needs to create one universe to put us in it. It is not logical that God would create many universes for no purpose.
The Instructor
You're digging yourself into a huge hole of ignorance when you make foolish statements like that.
This is the result of blindly accepting the falsity taught by the Bible.
Originally posted by stellspalfie prove what? that speculation is not dishonesty? this isnt a religion thing. its straightforward understanding of words. give me one reason why speculating is dishonest.
you are still yet to give me one shred of evidence that your religion has the truth. the very thing you accuse science of doing. this makes you as equally dishonest as everybody else. ...[text shortened]... eed to step up and provide proof. why dont you start by explaining how you know the vedas exist.
The proof is something you cannot have.
You cannot have it because you are not qualified to have it.
Your obstinate and foolish approach towards true religion and spirituality has alienated you to a position of being unqualified to discuss these serious topics.
Go away and think why you are disqualified.
You will need t o be humble and honest to do this. (good luck)
Edit: Bye the way............did you know that the game you are playing (chess) comes from the Vedas.
Originally posted by Dasa The proof is something you cannot have.
You cannot have it because you are not qualified to have it.
Your obstinate and foolish approach towards true religion and spirituality has alienated you to a position of being unqualified to discuss these serious topics.
Go away and think why you are disqualified.
You will need t o be humble and honest to do ...[text shortened]... Bye the way............did you know that the game you are playing (chess) comes from the Vedas.
Which book shows chess coming from the Vedas? BTW, you are just as dangerous as RJ Hinds. You are both as nutty as a fruitcake.
Originally posted by sonhouse Which book shows chess coming from the Vedas? BTW, you are just as dangerous as RJ Hinds. You are both as nutty as a fruitcake.
You are desperate to prove everything wrong if is is not on your radar.
I will tell you this....... your radar is as small as a grain of sand on a beach and you are believing you have got it together.
This is called arrogance and foolishness the qualities of a rascal.
Originally posted by Dasa The proof is something you cannot have.
You cannot have it because you are not qualified to have it.
Your obstinate and foolish approach towards true religion and spirituality has alienated you to a position of being unqualified to discuss these serious topics.
Go away and think why you are disqualified.
You will need t o be humble and honest to do ...[text shortened]... Bye the way............did you know that the game you are playing (chess) comes from the Vedas.
are you okay dasa? seriously, do you have somebody you can talk to? you seem to be a little detached.
Originally posted by Dasa You are dishonest if you speculate and then print books containing that speculation and then give the books to the kids. [that's dishonest] because you do not have a clue.
Your atheistic science is saying / that there was nothing in the beginning and then there was a big bang or big expansion of something that mysteriously manifested itself into existence ...[text shortened]... [...] cause.
What you are defending and supporting is that everything has come from nothing.
1. There is no such thing as "atheistic science"
2. Religion is the one that claims that there was nothing and the next day everything miraculously appeared. That everything comes from nothing is the christian view, not a scientific one.
3. You don't need to have creative intelligence to create all of this
4. "You are dishonest if you speculate and then print books containing that speculation and then give the books to the kids." - like what the church/religious people do with the bible?
I think you misunderstand the difference between atheism and science:
"Science from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge", is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe." - Wikipedia
"Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities" - Wikipedia
Originally posted by weelink 1. There is no such thing as "atheistic science"
2. Religion is the one that claims that there was nothing and the next day everything miraculously appeared. That everything comes from nothing is the christian view, not a scientific one.
3. You don't need to have creative intelligence to create all of this
4. "You are dishonest if you speculate and the ...[text shortened]... n a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities" - Wikipedia
You are wrong. Christians say God created it. God is not nothing in our opinion.
Originally posted by weelink Wasn't there nothing before the first day of creation? And didn't god said there should be something? Or don't you see that as a miracle?
If it is both, then "religion claims that there was nothing and the next day everything miraculously appeared".
Finish the quote. You followed that with: "That everything comes from nothing is the christian view, not a scientific one."
Originally posted by Suzianne Finish the quote. You followed that with: "That everything comes from nothing is the christian view, not a scientific one."
God is not nothing.
I don't have to finish the quote. But:
If it is both, then "religion claims that there was nothing and the next day everything miraculously appeared. That everything comes from nothing is the christian view, not a scientific one".
I don't see how that changes anything. Saying that god (whichever god you choose out of the million gods available to mankind today) is not nothing, is just a sentence without any meaning.
Originally posted by weelink Wasn't there nothing before the first day of creation? And didn't god said there should be something? Or don't you see that as a miracle?
If it is both, then "religion claims that there was nothing and the next day everything miraculously appeared".
By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.
(Hebrews 11:3 NKJV)
We see from the above verse that the early Christians believed by faith that God created and made all things that could be physically seen. However, God is an invisible Spirit and still qualifies as something even though God is not physical matter. However, if you only mean that God created and made all things from NOTHING that could be physically seen, then I think we can agree with that statement. But obviously, God did not create Himself. We believe God is eternal and uncreated and with no beginning or ending.
As I understand it, the evilutionists are the ones that say matter created itself out of nothing, because there is nothing spiritual in their view.
Originally posted by RJHinds [b]By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.
(Hebrews 11:3 NKJV)
We see from the above verse that the early Christians believed by faith that God created and made all things that could be physically seen. However, God is an invisible Spirit an ...[text shortened]... eated itself out of nothing, because there is nothing spiritual in their view.
The Instructor[/b]
What does evolution by natural selection has to do with the creation of matter? You do understand the difference between science, atheism, evolution and spirituality? These four are completely unrelated and not mutually exclusive.
And if god is invisible, how do you know he looks like the christian god and not one of the many others, who are invisible too?
23 Aug '13 10:39
Big-Bang or Big joke.
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