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-Removed-another moronic loaded question and a false dichotomy which ignores the fact that there is a third possibility that the person has the right of self determination and may act within the dictates of their own conscience to do what they will with their own body. I would let them choose what to do with their own body, living or dying is their choice, not mine.
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-Removed-Unlike you I am not a god, I am a human being. My wife has the right to decide what she will do with her own body. The consultants decide what is best in the case of a minor. Why wont you let people decide for themselves what to do with their own bodies? I am not wriggling, i know that everyone is a free moral agent with recourse to the faculty of conscience and has the right of self determination, why are you denying them that right perspexjeester?
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Oh dear perspexjeester seems unable to tell us why he would deny anyone the right of self determination? are we not free moral agents with recourse to the faculty of conscience? why must perspexjeester play god? Is he a god? will he allow people the right to decide what to do with their own bodies? Will he ever come up with an original argument? find out in next weeks exciting episode of perspexjeester and the false dilemma at a forum near you, Tuesdays.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou say this robbie, but how does this apply to children in your care - according to your "principles"? Would you let your child die for want of a life saving blood transfusion if bloodless surgery were unavailable? Would you understand if the state were to step in to save your child's life if it looked like you were choosing to let it die?
why wont you let people decide what to do with their own bodies? is it because you think you are a god and have the right to give or deny life to people?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo you would leave the decision of whether or not to give your child a blood transfusion to the doctors ["the consultants"], is that your answer?
The consultants decide what is best in the case of a minor. Why wont you let people decide for themselves what to do with their own bodies?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobie"People here are free to express their beliefs about such things as the Bible"
pleas keep away from my children, think of shrek and far far far far away land, this thread is about bloodless surgery and alternatives to blood transfusion, have you anything to say about that, no? well shad-up-a-yo-face.
People here are free to express their beliefs about such things as the Bible which make sit clear that there is a satanic element which influences humankind, if you don't like it then this is not the place for you.
"...shad-up-a-yo-face."
I see your point.
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Originally posted by iChopWoodForFreeGood now do you have anything to say about bloodless surgery or alternatives to blood transfusion? Because try as a might I cannot find a single expression of yours with regard to the topic of this thread that being bloodless surgery and alternatives to blood transfusion.
"[b]People here are free to express their beliefs about such things as the Bible"
"...shad-up-a-yo-face."
I see your point.[/b]
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Originally posted by FMFI have no jurisdiction in the case of a minor. This is the last time i will state this. Why you fail to grasp it I cannot say. Is the language difficult. Are the terms technical? Is it Urdu or Hindi? Do you need glasses? Now this thread is about bloodless surgery and alternatives to blood transfusion and try as i might i cannot find a single statement of yours with regards to that topic until you do have anything to say about bloodless surgery and alternatives to blood transfusion I would be pleased if you refrained from wasting my time with your ill conceived questions the basis of which lie in ignorance. Thankyou.
You say this robbie, but how does this apply to children in your care - according to your "principles"? Would you let your child die for want of a life saving blood transfusion if bloodless surgery were unavailable? Would you understand if the state were to step in to save your child's life if it looked like you were choosing to let it die?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou quoted Matt 18:6 but you didn't answer my question about it. Would the killing of another human being that it mentions be justifiable in your view?
"If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." - Matt 18:6