Break It Down

Originally posted by Suzianne
ahem.

I am not amused.

You're smarter than evidenced by this post. You know better than this.

No. Like I said. You are a Liberal and a Christian. You are NOT affiliated with the self-entitled "Liberal Christians." It's a trendy brand of Christianity. I gave you the wiki link to the term, did you check it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Christianity

I am not at all suggesting that a Liberal person can't be a Christian. Liberal Christianity is like a denomination all its own. A scary, very anti-biblical denomination.

As a matter of fact, the last "Liberal Christian" I bumped into in a forum would have had no problem telling you to your face what a disgusting, pathetically stupid, ***** you are for believing the bible tells the truth. They HATE the bible and despise its believers to the core.

Originally posted by Melanerpes
So what happened after you turned 12?

bat mitzvah. No wait, a year too early.

Originally posted by RJHinds
The point is Professor Behe believes in "Intelligent Design" even though
this is against the position of the University. Intelligent Design could be TRUE and Professor Behe could be RIGHT in believing in it.

You do realize Lehigh University is an engineering school don't you? I know, it is about 15 miles away from my house.

Originally posted by sumydid
No. Like I said. You are a Liberal and a Christian. You are NOT affiliated with the self-entitled "Liberal Christians." It's a trendy brand of Christianity. I gave you the wiki link to the term, did you check it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Christianity

I am not at all suggesting that a Liberal person can't be a Christian. Liberal Christ ...[text shortened]... ing the bible tells the truth. They HATE the bible and despise its believers to the core.

So what's wrong with that? Since the bible is a bunch of BS?

Originally posted by sonhouse
So what's wrong with that? Since the bible is a bunch of BS?

I can see how one in a certain state of mind and spirit, would conclude such.

Furthermore, this "Liberal Christianity" belief system implodes upon itself because if indeed the bible is a bunch of BS, they have no business following the "teachings of Christ." That is unless they are a bunch of cherry-pickers who take a few lines from the bible, pitch the rest in the trashcan, and then twist what little they embraced into meaning what they want it to mean.

Truth be told, the "Liberal Christian" society is hardly different from fluffy-bunny New Agers.

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Originally posted by googlefudge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4A-dMqEbSk8#t=232s

Do you seriously believe this nonsense?

Originally posted by sonhouse
bat mitzvah. No wait, a year too early.

Your right the bat mitzvah is at 12 years of age. Now the bar mitzvah is
at 13 years of age. I beleive they once were both at 12 years of age. But
after it was determined that boys do not mature as early as girls, the boys
bar mitzvah was delayed one year.

Originally posted by RJHinds
He says that since he has gained more knowledge he is doubting what he
had been taught on evolution because Darwin's evolution does not explain
certain things he has discovered.

I doubt if I'll have the time to that book on evolution because I just got
two new books on chess that I wish to read and want have any time for
fiction books for awhile.

P.S. I probably will not be posting much for awhile either. I know you
will like that.

You cant stop posting man. Whose going to take up the slack?
Whose going to fill the void that your absence will bring?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Do you seriously believe this nonsense?

It isn't nonsense.

You don't understand it, and find it religiously offensive, but it is true.

The existence of evolution is as much fact as the existence of gravity.

And an inescapable conclusion of that is that you are a monkey, as is everyone else.

Evolution is true and only backwards arse creationist's think otherwise.

There is no scientific debate over whether evolution is true, there is no controversy, there is no competing theory.

And evolution forms the backbone of biology palaeontology and medicine, if it were not true then none of those
sciences would make any sense.

There are billion dollar industries that only work because evolution is true.

Evolution agrees with every known fact or find and is in disagreement with nothing.

So yes I seriously believe this, because it's true. (and no I don't get this from these video's but they are good
presentations of the information which is why I have linked them.)


Also for those believing in YEC, you also fall foul of geology, astronomy and physics. Which all prove you wrong too.

To be a YEC you have to throw out the ENTIRETY of science.
Science works, creationism doesn't.
Science is useful, creationism isn't.

Evolution is real, creationism isn't.

Originally posted by googlefudge
It isn't nonsense.

You don't understand it, and find it religiously offensive, but it is true.

The existence of evolution is as much fact as the existence of gravity.

And an inescapable conclusion of that is that you are a monkey, as is everyone else.

Evolution is true and only backwards arse creationist's think otherwise.

There is no scie ...[text shortened]... oesn't.
Science is useful, creationism isn't.

Evolution is real, creationism isn't.

Science does not depend on the theory of evolution because that theory is
FALSE.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Science does not depend on the theory of evolution because that theory is
FALSE.

Says the backwards arse creationist...

And this isn't actually something you can argue, all the palaeontologists, biologists and
pharmacists rely on evolution being right as a backbone and foundation for all their other
theories and hypotheses and will tell you so.

And as such those other theories wouldn't work if evolution was wrong.

Whether you disagree with evolution or not you can't argue that it isn't the backbone of all
relevant science because it is. It's a fact that biologists rely on evolution as the foundation
of their discipline. Ditto medicine and palaeontology.

The entire sane world disagrees with you, take the hint.

Originally posted by googlefudge
Says the backwards arse creationist...

And this isn't actually something you can argue, all the palaeontologists, biologists and
pharmacists rely on evolution being right as a backbone and foundation for all their other
theories and hypotheses and will tell you so.

And as such those other theories wouldn't work if evolution was wrong.

Wheth tto medicine and palaeontology.

The entire sane world disagrees with you, take the hint.

And this isn't actually something you can argue, all the palaeontologists, biologists and
pharmacists rely on evolution being right as a backbone and foundation for all their
other theories and hypotheses

this says absolutely nothing, simply because your reading as Huxely puts it, 'from the
same recipe book', doesn't mean anything.

the backbone of all relevant science? hardly, in fact, its probably irrelevant to any science other than biology.

and again, simply because the majority accept it is not a validating principle either.

weak, very weak.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
And this isn't actually something you can argue, all the palaeontologists, biologists and
pharmacists rely on evolution being right as a backbone and foundation for all their
other theories and hypotheses

this says absolutely nothing, simply because your reading as Huxely puts it, 'from the
same recipe book', doesn't mean anything.

the bac ...[text shortened]... ply because the majority accept it is not a validating principle either.

weak, very weak.

No it says that you can't claim that science relies on it which is what RJHinds said.

It might be weak, if it were the only argument I had presented, or had.
It isn't.
Evolution has more evidence in support of it (and none against) than almost any other
theory in existence.

And yes, it's the backbone of all relevant science, which you would know if you had
actually paid any attention during your education.

And it is relevant that over 95% of all relevant scientists agree that evolution happens,
because it means you have to have a really really good reason and evidence to stand up
as a lay person and disagree without looking really stupid.

Of course in this country you are in an even smaller minority than RJHinds is in the USA.
Which gives you less excuse for being that ignorant.

Originally posted by googlefudge
No it says that you can't claim that science relies on it which is what RJHinds said.

It might be weak, if it were the only argument I had presented, or had.
It isn't.
Evolution has more evidence in support of it (and none against) than almost any other
theory in existence.

And yes, it's the backbone of all relevant science, which you would kno ...[text shortened]... er minority than RJHinds is in the USA.
Which gives you less excuse for being that ignorant.

We have no law of evolution; it is all theory. We have a law of gravity along
with the theory of gravity. But no part of the theory of evolution has been
accepted and declared law by science. Some evolutionist try to redefine
theory in such a way to say it is the same as a law in their desparate attempt
to convince everyone that it is a law. But now it is just like a bill on capital
hill. It is still just a bill.

Originally posted by RJHinds
We have no law of evolution; it is all theory. We have a law of gravity along
with the theory of gravity. But no part of the theory of evolution has been
accepted and declared law by science. Some evolutionist try to redefine
theory in such a way to say it is the same as a law in their desperate attempt
to convince everyone that it is a law. But now it is just like a bill on capital
hill. It is still just a bill.

The only people who are desperate are the creationists.
You in fact.

You have no clue what you are talking about, as you demonstrate on a daily basis.

A law and a theory are not the same thing, theories never get turned into laws and laws are not theories.

Theories are made of facts and laws, they are included in them.

There are laws of evolution and facts of evolution which go together to make up the theory of evolution.

And regardless of what you call it, evolution is regarded by scientists as being the best tested and reliable idea in
science.

So it doesn't matter what the words are, you can't claim scientists don't think it's reliable or true because of what
they call it.

To do so is desperate, which is what you are.