Originally posted by Bosse de NageThat too has had a large negative effect.
What about the attitudes of African men towards wearing condoms?
One of the biggest issues with AIDS was that it was in effect a death sentence and that lead to a lot of denial. Denial led to a refusal to modify behavior. Now that treatment has made it a lot less of a death sentence, behavior is changing.
Having observed the amount of denial humans are capable of when faced with death I often wonder to what extent religion is based on a similar denial.
Originally posted by Conrau KSaying "never use condoms" isn't a message of abstinence.
[b]The point is that the pope is doing the equivalent of telling people that they shouldn't wear a seat belt if they choose to drive.
I think that what the Pope is doing is the equivalent not to drive at all. Hence the word abstinence.[/b]
I have no problem with the pope actually promoting abstinence, but saying condoms INCREASE the risk of aids is nothing short of lying.
Originally posted by Conrau KI have no doubt that some catholics do not just abstain from sex outside of marriage and they aren't immune to AIDs and HIV hence they should be encouraged to use condoms.
According to the article in the OP, 'While Catholicism expands on the continent of Africa, we are seeing the expansion of HIV/AIDS as well.' I am wondering if there is any correlation between Catholicism and the prevalence of HIV.
At least here in the US the evidence is that people in abstinence only programs have just as much sex as those who are not, but they just have more unprotected sex - i.e. they drive just as much, but they just wear their seat belt less often.
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesYou wear a silly hat; try holding together a group of people
The Pope is an embarrassment.
convinced that every sperm should be a happy sperm, and we'll see
how much sense you make.
I've always wondered what the catholics do about all them millions of
sperm who doesn't make it even when injected deeply inside a
fruitful womb containing a happy egg. Do the catholics morn and pray
during ejaculation?
"Uh! Uh! Oh, GOD! Uuuuh! Why!? Another twenty million some sperms
dead! Oh, the cruelty! Why? Why-yh-uuuuh?"
Or:
"Dear God in heaven. Please bless the soul of every sperm I am about
to release for they will provide great pleasure which is a sin I know and
I will pay my Hail Mary's later. The hope that even one of them can
fertilise the egg is more than anyone can ask for. Thank you for your
blessings beforehand. Bless them all, thanks.
UUUuuuuuUUUuUuuUuuUugg-uhhh!... Uh!
Amen!"
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Originally posted by PsychoPawnThe Pope promotes the message that the proper context of sex is within monogamous marriage. He also is against the use of condoms, for reasons that are to do with the notion that the proper context of sexual activity is respected by not using a device which is specifically designed to thwart procreation. Mind you, a Vatican commission is looking into whether condoms could be justified in some circumstances.
Saying "never use condoms" isn't a message of abstinence.
I have no problem with the pope actually promoting abstinence, but saying condoms INCREASE the risk of aids is nothing short of lying.
Now, you have made an accusation that the Pope has said that the use of condoms increases the risk of aids, and that this constitutes lying. But consider this, who is at more risk, a monogamous person who follows Catholic teaching, or a promiscuous person who uses condoms? The answer is not so easy to calculate is it?
Originally posted by Lord SharkGood point, I will ponder that one...
The Pope promotes the message that the proper context of sex is within monogamous marriage. He also is against the use of condoms, for reasons that are to do with the notion that the proper context of sexual activity is respected by not using a device which is specifically designed to thwart procreation. Mind you, a Vatican commission is looking into whet ...[text shortened]... eaching, or a promiscuous person who uses condoms? The answer is not so easy to calculate is it?
Originally posted by daniel58genesis 1:29
No marijuana is drugs, I don't do it, never have, never will, and other people shouldn't do it either.
"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
you have a lot to learn young padawan.
Originally posted by generalissimoNow there's an idea, a nice Hydro infused T-bone! Gonna be the envy of the whole neighborhood I tell yah!
genesis 1:29
"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
you have a lot to learn young padawan.