Originally posted by FMFChrist said they will be cast into the lake of fire. But lets assume that as some of them say Christ was in another dispensation, Paul and the Apostles said the same thing. They will be cut off, destroyed, will not inherit the Kingdom of God. It cannot be more clearly stated.
If you have "eternal salvation through faith", can your failure to obey the teachings of Christ result in the loss of your "salvation"?
Originally posted by Rajk999Here's the thing, though, and why other Christians here find you hypocritical.
Christ said they will be cast into the lake of fire. But lets assume that as some of them say Christ was in another dispensation, Paul and the Apostles said the same thing. They will be cut off, destroyed, will not inherit the Kingdom of God. It cannot be more clearly stated.
You don't advocate the teachings of Christ, you advocate the teachings of Rajk.
Originally posted by SuziannePutting aside your personal and discourse-suffocating dislike of Rajk999 for a moment, is he right about the "Lake of Fire" and not inheriting the Kingdom of God, yes or no? If a Christian gains "eternal salvation" through faith, can that Christian's failure to obey the teachings of Christ result in the eternal loss of their "salvation"?
Here's the thing, though, and why other Christians here find you hypocritical.
You don't advocate the teachings of Christ, you advocate the teachings of Rajk.
Originally posted by FMFRather than accept what Christ, Paul and all the Apostles said about this issue, they instead choose to alter the meaning of :
Putting aside your personal and discourse-suffocating dislike of Rajk999 for a moment, is he right about the "Lake of Fire" and not inheriting the Kingdom of God, yes or no? If a Christian gains "eternal salvation" through faith, can that Christian's failure to obey the teachings of Christ result in the eternal loss of their "salvation"?
- cut off
- destroyed
- will not inherit
- enemies of the cross
- cannot be forgiven
- without hope
- fall away
and other strongly worded passages that speaks of destruction of unrighteous Christians. Some Christians are even so brassface to claim that Christs teachings are not applicable to them. Even so they fail to see that the Apostles are saying the very same thing as Jesus.
Here is a clear one from Peter:
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. (2 Peter 2:20-22 KJV)
Therefore:
1. Those polluted by a world of sin is in for destruction and death
2. Christians saved by faith in Christ, will know the way of righteousness and will inherit eternal life.
3. However if some Christians in #2, choose to return to a worldly sinful life then they are in a worse situation than persons in group #1 .. something worse than death and destruction awaits them.
So says the Bible.