-Removed-I didn't say you had a secret about anything. I just figured that since you asked me a personal question, you are the kind of person who thinks personal information is something to be casually shared among people who don't know each other. I mean, it's either that, or you are a total hypocrite that expects others to give up personal information but won't do so yourself. But we know that's not true.
So. Again. Since you're the one that has come forth as a person who expects others to give up their personal information, shouldn't you be expected to, as a token of honesty, respect and transparency, reveal your information first?
@tom-wolsey saiddivegeester has started dozens of threads about himself as a Christian, and his faith, and Jesus, and the church, and so on, over the last decade, many of which led to lively and extended discussions in which he was extremely candid and often quite harsh about himself. What exactly is the issue you have with his "honesty, respect and transparency" when it comes to his Christian faith?
Since you're the one that has come forth as a person who expects others to give up their personal information, shouldn't you be expected to, as a token of honesty, respect and transparency, reveal your information first?
@fmf saidAnd again, you display a complete lack of understanding. Not to mention the usual change of subject by way of projection. Oh! And the rude butting into someone else's conversation. Can't say I've missed that. Anyway, I never said I had an issue. It's a completely plausible response, if someone requests another's personal information, the requester shouldn't refuse to give up their own information first.
divegeester has started dozens of threads about himself as a Christian, and his faith, and Jesus, and the church, and so on, over the last decade, many of which led to lively and extended discussions in which he was extremely candid and often quite harsh about himself. What exactly is the issue you have with his "honesty, respect and transparency" when it comes to his Christian faith?
It's an odd question anyway. "How long have you been a Christian." Why does it matter? Who cares? What motivates someone to ask such a question, out of the blue, in the middle of a discussion about something completely different?
@tom-wolsey saidYou don't need to reveal anything about yourself if you don't want to.
And again, you display a complete lack of understanding. Not to mention the usual change of subject by way of projection. Oh! And the rude butting into someone else's conversation. Can't say I've missed that. Anyway, I never said I had an issue. It's a completely plausible response, if someone requests another's personal information, the requester shouldn't refuse to give up their own information first.
@tom-wolsey saidYou don't seem interested in sonship's clumsy attempt to run away from criticism of his religious group and you don't seem interested in the topic of women being raped in India, indeed, that was the topic sonship chose [and promptly abandoned] in order to deflect from criticism of his religious group. So what topic you think you and others should be addressing seems moot to me.
What motivates someone to ask such a question, out of the blue, in the middle of a discussion about something completely different?
@tom-wolsey saidSo, there you go. divegeester has shared deeply personal insights and admissions about his Christian faith here for years. You, on the other hand, need not reveal anything about yours if you don't want to.
I generally have no problem with it when I'm among people I can trust.
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@fmf saidDid you believe him? He does have a history of role-playing.
divegeester has started dozens of threads about himself as a Christian, and his faith, and Jesus, and the church, and so on, over the last decade, many of which led to lively and extended discussions in which he was extremely candid and often quite harsh about himself. What exactly is the issue you have with his "honesty, respect and transparency" when it comes to his Christian faith?
Also, as his chronicler and spokesperson, which aspects of Christianity would you say he most embodies and displays in this forum? Or has he abandoned the faith?
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I do respect your consistent sobriety of tone, so am inclined to believe your observations in this post without requesting documentation.
If Dive has been harsh about himself in the past, I'm sorry to hear it and hope that he has found a greater measure of self-acceptance and self-appreciation – in Christian terms, seeing himself through the eyes of the God Who is Love rather than through the eyes of the social-control boogeyman of the God of Judgment.
As for all the nitpicking and rebuking that occurs here among people who present themselves as Christians, I think that was more of a Pauline recommendation (perhaps as a lapidary process but also to maintain consistency of doctrine) but one which unfortunately and usually just leads to wrangling in the weeds these days – a distraction, a diversion, and a means of procrastination.
Inasmuch as it is inevitably a persona that practices and engages with Christianity, it is understandable that some or perhaps many personas are reluctant to look toward the One True Directionless Direction, because they are not yet ready to be dissolved or transformed.
And that is fine.
@tom-wolsey saidTook me decades to learn that the best response to some personal questions is: "Why do you ask?"
And again, you display a complete lack of understanding. Not to mention the usual change of subject by way of projection. Oh! And the rude butting into someone else's conversation. Can't say I've missed that. Anyway, I never said I had an issue. It's a completely plausible response, if someone requests another's personal information, the requester shouldn't refuse to ...[text shortened]... uch a question, out of the blue, in the middle of a discussion about something completely different?
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